# SUMMITS Buyers Beware (but also rejoice?) **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [August 21, 2025, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668 "2025-08-21T19:01:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![One4All](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/one4all/32/649615_2.png) [@One4All](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/One4All)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 3:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/43 "2025-08-22T03:50:27Z")
Quick question I had bought a summit 7 and I tried to take out the side effects its definitely hard to remove…..to the point that it left an indent on my thumb….. ---
**Author:** ![fradiger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fradiger/32/66850_2.png) [@fradiger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fradiger)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/44 "2025-08-22T03:53:37Z")
I’ve had some side effect yoyos like this before direct from OD, not necessarily an indicator of a fake. If you have a seven summit that remotely feels like pyramatte (or you have the box, the boxes the fakes come in are HORRIBLE) you’re likely good, could always post some close up pics of the surface reflecting some sunlight and we could help out. FWIW I’ve only seen fakes of the colors listed in the post (elbrus, aconcagua, vinson, raw) ---
**Author:** ![One4All](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/one4all/32/649615_2.png) [@One4All](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/One4All)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/45 "2025-08-22T04:05:41Z")
Honestly I haven’t collected any seven summits before, unfortunately it didnt come with a box and it also has white pads, i can’t seem to post multiple pictures for some odd reason but maybe through multiple comments ![1000040740](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/c/3/7c3a8559e017a3d26d4b3d9015a347f7820b8f71.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/46 "2025-08-22T04:06:45Z")
That’s for sure real. The pyramatte never lies. ---
**Author:** ![One4All](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/one4all/32/649615_2.png) [@One4All](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/One4All)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 4:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/47 "2025-08-22T04:10:50Z")
Here are more pics, that’s good to hear, there was some alarms in my head as I was reading the thread lol ![1000040741](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/7/3/77320b315690f3b5a2649c8c3019bcfe44d46ded.jpeg) ![1000040737](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/9/d/b9d1ab142cde01fb2601f01b217c8b57c2c4e04d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MoxieOpal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moxieopal/32/691989_2.png) [@MoxieOpal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoxieOpal)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/48 "2025-08-22T04:14:44Z")
Sit flush or recessed it may be Rso pads ---
**Author:** ![One4All](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/one4all/32/649615_2.png) [@One4All](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/One4All)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/49 "2025-08-22T04:20:43Z")
A bit recessed, I can feel it with my nail and you can barely see it sit under ---
**Author:** ![MoxieOpal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moxieopal/32/691989_2.png) [@MoxieOpal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoxieOpal)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/50 "2025-08-22T04:21:24Z")
Older clyw models Rso sits slightly less recessed compared to newer I use Rso all the time ---
**Author:** ![MoxieOpal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moxieopal/32/691989_2.png) [@MoxieOpal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoxieOpal)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/51 "2025-08-22T04:22:20Z")
My manatee has .1mm recession compared to older models I live and stand by Rso pads ---
**Author:** ![2rozhok](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/2rozhok/32/297351_2.png) [@2rozhok](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/2rozhok)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/52 "2025-08-22T05:13:00Z")
> [@da5id](#): > > And yes, a new run of Summits has a high likelihood of happening … [extremely loud moistcritikal WOOO] Yes please! ---
**Author:** ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/53 "2025-08-22T17:24:00Z")
This is a possibility as well. Talks are happening 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/54 "2025-08-22T17:42:01Z")
Summit 2020 would be better than a rerun imo. ---
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/55 "2025-08-22T17:46:13Z")
Agree. A Summit 2 that is essentially a much wider Free Solo w/ Side effects & in some classic CLYW colorways would kiiilll ---
**Author:** ![Pete](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pete/32/620953_2.png) [@Pete](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pete)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/56 "2025-08-22T18:02:10Z")
Summit 2 but please dont make it wider. I love the width its at rn ---
**Author:** ![aderan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aderan/32/628562_2.png) [@aderan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aderan)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/57 "2025-08-22T18:02:24Z")
new summit over old design re-run please 😭 ---
**Author:** ![Upmanyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e68b1a/32.png) [@Upmanyu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Upmanyu)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/58 "2025-08-22T18:05:00Z")
Resisting the urge to fight every one of you against a rerun! They said they can do both! ---
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/59 "2025-08-22T18:07:43Z")
Yoyos have gotten SIGNIFICANTLY wider, especially over the last few years, and now the original Summit (and most OD’s in general) are on the more narrow side by comparison. If you like the width of the Summit/Free Solo… perhaps stick with one of those? Would personally like to see a much more “modern” take on the Summit, which would be making it at least a bit wider. Even adding a few mm would still put it pretty far behind where most yoyos are at these days. ---
**Author:** ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/60 "2025-08-22T18:20:51Z")
Two things can be true! ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/61 "2025-08-22T18:52:23Z")
Blasphemy lol. #teamslimyoyo #39mmorless ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668/62 "2025-08-22T19:04:48Z")
Since we’re throwing around, a lot of ideas here. I got a few ideas myself On the new Summit. Gonna ask David and Shawn, if they could make a couple slight changes on the new release. I’m going to ask them if they could make the new yo-yo slightly larger in diameter… Slightly wider… Slightly heavier… With a slightly wider gap… And slightly different colors… With a slightly different type of pyramatte finish… With a slightly different weight distribution… And a slightly modified response system. I’m gonna ask them to call it the Super Summit. It will represent the eighth largest mountain peak that can only be viewed from the nether world between 12 noon and 1:38 PM on Thursdays. And I’m gonna ask them if they could sell it for the same exact price that the first yo-yo sold for almost 13 years ago thereabouts. One drop is pretty cool at considering suggestions so I’m sure this is all possible, possibly? [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summits-buyers-beware-but-also-rejoice/431668.md?page=4)