# Summit Vs. Genesis **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [July 16, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summit-vs-genesis/56576 "2013-07-16T18:38:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Malikman13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@Malikman13](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Malikman13)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summit-vs-genesis/56576/1 "2013-07-16T18:38:47Z")
I know how to bind. i want to know the pros and cons of each yoyo, and a description of how the play is, or a short review. Thanks ! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![yoyoguy345](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoguy345/32/1363_2.png) [@yoyoguy345](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoguy345)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summit-vs-genesis/56576/2 "2013-07-16T18:49:50Z")
> [@Malikman13](#): > > I know how to bind. i want to know the pros and cons of each yoyo, and a description of how the play is, or a short review. > Thanks ! 🙂 I’ve owned both but traded my genesis and I can say that the summit was WAY better than the genesis. Not even close. The genesis is really stable and probably more stable than the summit, but it feels like a rock on the string. The summit feels better all around. If you have any detailed questions, feel free to PM me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![yoyo143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo143/32/1384_2.png) [@yoyo143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo143)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summit-vs-genesis/56576/3 "2013-07-16T18:50:34Z")
Really? The summit! Its a really good yoyo and you can change the weight with side effects. Its made by two great brands and it comes with a stick 10 ball breaking, and clyw aqua pads! I think he only down side is it might be a little slow… But seriously, summit hands down, and its like way more expensive then the genesis, you know that right? ---
**Author:** ![yoyoguy345](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoguy345/32/1363_2.png) [@yoyoguy345](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoguy345)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summit-vs-genesis/56576/4 "2013-07-16T19:01:45Z")
> [@yoyo143](#): > > Really? The summit! Its a really good yoyo and you can change the weight with side effects. Its made by two great brands and it comes with a stick 10 ball breaking, and clyw aqua pads! I think he only down side is it might be a little slow… > > But seriously, summit hands down, and its like way more expensive then the genesis, you know that right? This ^ but I don’t feel that it is slow. It can be pushed to faster speeds. It’s not a speed demon tho. ---
**Author:** ![yoyo143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo143/32/1384_2.png) [@yoyo143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo143)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summit-vs-genesis/56576/5 "2013-07-16T19:08:45Z")
> [@yoyoguy345](#): > > > [@yoyo143](#): > > > > Really? The summit! Its a really good yoyo and you can change the weight with side effects. Its made by two great brands and it comes with a stick 10 ball breaking, and clyw aqua pads! I think he only down side is it might be a little slow… > > > > But seriously, summit hands down, and its like way more expensive then the genesis, you know that right? > > This ^ but I don’t feel that it is slow. It can be pushed to faster speeds. It’s not a speed demon tho. Yah, but I didn’t want people to get mad… In another thread, some people said it went slow, some said fast. When I played it, I could push it pretty fast. The side effects are a cool feature also. ---
**Author:** ![LeftyLink](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/leftylink/32/1321_2.png) [@LeftyLink](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeftyLink)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summit-vs-genesis/56576/6 "2013-07-16T19:13:11Z")
> [@yoyo143](#): > > > [@yoyoguy345](#): > > > > > [@yoyo143](#): > > > > > > Really? The summit! Its a really good yoyo and you can change the weight with side effects. Its made by two great brands and it comes with a stick 10 ball breaking, and clyw aqua pads! I think he only down side is it might be a little slow… > > > > > > But seriously, summit hands down, and its like way more expensive then the genesis, you know that right? > > > > This ^ but I don’t feel that it is slow. It can be pushed to faster speeds. It’s not a speed demon tho. > > Yah, but I didn’t want people to get mad… In another thread, some people said it went slow, some said fast. When I played it, I could push it pretty fast. > > The side effects are a cool feature also. I would’ve thought that the Genesis would be slower because of the weight distribution and overall weight ---
**Author:** ![yoyoguy345](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoguy345/32/1363_2.png) [@yoyoguy345](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoguy345)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summit-vs-genesis/56576/7 "2013-07-16T22:38:15Z")
> [@LeftyLink](#): > > > [@yoyo143](#): > > > > > [@yoyoguy345](#): > > > > > > > [@yoyo143](#): > > > > > > > > Really? The summit! Its a really good yoyo and you can change the weight with side effects. Its made by two great brands and it comes with a stick 10 ball breaking, and clyw aqua pads! I think he only down side is it might be a little slow… > > > > > > > > But seriously, summit hands down, and its like way more expensive then the genesis, you know that right? > > > > > > This ^ but I don’t feel that it is slow. It can be pushed to faster speeds. It’s not a speed demon tho. > > > > Yah, but I didn’t want people to get mad… In another thread, some people said it went slow, some said fast. When I played it, I could push it pretty fast. > > > > The side effects are a cool feature also. > > I would’ve thought that the Genesis would be slower because of the weight distribution and overall weight It is slower. ---
**Author:** ![Casey888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summit-vs-genesis/56576/8 "2013-07-17T00:12:49Z")
The summit is by no means slow. It doesn’t beg to be pushed but it can be fast very easily. ---
**Author:** ![Jdrabik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jdrabik/32/1110_2.png) [@Jdrabik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jdrabik)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summit-vs-genesis/56576/9 "2013-07-17T00:16:10Z")
I don’t feel like the Genesis is a rock on a string. Yes, it’s heavier than many yoyos, but it can actually go quite fast if you want it to. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoguy345](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoguy345/32/1363_2.png) [@yoyoguy345](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoguy345)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summit-vs-genesis/56576/10 "2013-07-17T00:28:27Z")
> [@Jdrabik](#): > > I don’t feel like the Genesis is a rock on a string. Yes, it’s heavier than many yoyos, but it can actually go quite fast if you want it to. I agree it can go fast if you REALLY push it but it just feels too solid. ---
**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summit-vs-genesis/56576/11 "2013-07-17T00:47:06Z")
> [@yoyoguy345](#): > > > [@Jdrabik](#): > > > > I don’t feel like the Genesis is a rock on a string. Yes, it’s heavier than many yoyos, but it can actually go quite fast if you want it to. > > I agree it can go fast if you REALLY push it but it just feels too solid. so heavy yo-yo’s are slow? I think it is about shape and weight. If it is large and heavy, it will probably be slow. But a smaller throw with the same weight may be much faster. Some of my fastest moving yo-yo’s are small, heavy throws. If you are talking about changing direction quickly, I call that maneuverability. That, however, is a trade-off between weight and spin-time. Light yo-yo’s (made of a uniform material) just will not have the spin-time of a heavier yo-yo but will be much more maneuverable. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoguy345](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoguy345/32/1363_2.png) [@yoyoguy345](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoguy345)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summit-vs-genesis/56576/12 "2013-07-17T01:01:53Z")
> [@YoyoGeezer](#): > > > [@yoyoguy345](#): > > > > > [@Jdrabik](#): > > > > > > I don’t feel like the Genesis is a rock on a string. Yes, it’s heavier than many yoyos, but it can actually go quite fast if you want it to. > > > > I agree it can go fast if you REALLY push it but it just feels too solid. > > so heavy yo-yo’s are slow? > > I think it is about shape and weight. If it is large and heavy, it will probably be slow. But a smaller throw with the same weight may be much faster. Some of my fastest moving yo-yo’s are small, heavy throws. If you are talking about changing direction quickly, I call that maneuverability. That, however, is a trade-off between weight and spin-time. Light yo-yo’s (made of a uniform material) just will not have the spin-time of a heavier yo-yo but will be much more maneuverable. Once again, I agree. The genesis is big, heavy, and has a lot of rim weight, which causes it to be slow. It just takes more work to get it going fast. ---
**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summit-vs-genesis/56576/13 "2013-07-17T04:47:59Z")
> [@yoyoguy345](#): > > > [@YoyoGeezer](#): > > > > > [@yoyoguy345](#): > > > > > > > [@Jdrabik](#): > > > > > > > > I don’t feel like the Genesis is a rock on a string. Yes, it’s heavier than many yoyos, but it can actually go quite fast if you want it to. > > > > > > I agree it can go fast if you REALLY push it but it just feels too solid. > > > > so heavy yo-yo’s are slow? > > > > I think it is about shape and weight. If it is large and heavy, it will probably be slow. But a smaller throw with the same weight may be much faster. Some of my fastest moving yo-yo’s are small, heavy throws. If you are talking about changing direction quickly, I call that maneuverability. That, however, is a trade-off between weight and spin-time. Light yo-yo’s (made of a uniform material) just will not have the spin-time of a heavier yo-yo but will be much more maneuverable. > > Once again, I agree. The genesis is big, heavy, and has a lot of rim weight, which causes it to be slow. It just takes more work to get it going fast. I agree with that too. It definitely has a bit more heft. But that is what makes it so versatile for 1A and 5A. ---
**Author:** ![nardcopter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nardcopter/32/1335_2.png) [@nardcopter](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nardcopter)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summit-vs-genesis/56576/14 "2013-07-17T05:03:25Z")
> [@YoyoGeezer](#): > > > [@yoyoguy345](#): > > > > > [@YoyoGeezer](#): > > > > > > > [@yoyoguy345](#): > > > > > > > > > [@Jdrabik](#): > > > > > > > > > > I don’t feel like the Genesis is a rock on a string. Yes, it’s heavier than many yoyos, but it can actually go quite fast if you want it to. > > > > > > > > I agree it can go fast if you REALLY push it but it just feels too solid. > > > > > > so heavy yo-yo’s are slow? > > > > > > I think it is about shape and weight. If it is large and heavy, it will probably be slow. But a smaller throw with the same weight may be much faster. Some of my fastest moving yo-yo’s are small, heavy throws. If you are talking about changing direction quickly, I call that maneuverability. That, however, is a trade-off between weight and spin-time. Light yo-yo’s (made of a uniform material) just will not have the spin-time of a heavier yo-yo but will be much more maneuverable. > > > > Once again, I agree. The genesis is big, heavy, and has a lot of rim weight, which causes it to be slow. It just takes more work to get it going fast. > > I agree with that too. It definitely has a bit more heft. But that is what makes it so versatile for 1A and 5A. I agree, heavy isnt slow. My BTH is the fastest yoyo I have ever touched. ---
**Author:** ![jwil425](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6de8d8/32.png) [@jwil425](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jwil425)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summit-vs-genesis/56576/15 "2013-07-17T07:20:17Z")
Ya go with the Summit. I enjoyed the Genesis while I had it but I didn’t really know what I liked back when I had it. The Genesis plays like one of the heaviest yoyos I have ever thrown. It has insane stability and spin times but felt dead on the string (and not in a good way). It all.comes down to personal preference though. When you begin getting into professional yoyos its a lot of trial and error. IMO you gotta go threw at least 6-7 quality yoyos before you really know what suits you. Heck it took me closer to 15-20 🙂 but IMO the Summit outplays the Genesis hands down. They’re both good though. ---
**Author:** ![dynikus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dynikus/32/812_2.png) [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/summit-vs-genesis/56576/16 "2013-07-17T08:04:27Z")
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