# Suicide Help

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suicide-help/6408>\
**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\
**Created:** [September 9, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suicide-help/6408 "2009-09-09T18:30:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Slevin77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Slevin77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slevin77)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suicide-help/6408/1 "2009-09-09T18:30:42Z")

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Ive been having trouble with the suicide  
I have the motion down  
But i cant get the loop to open up right  
is therenany trick to get a perfect loop to open up  
any tips are apreciated  
thanks

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**Author:** ![JM1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jm1/32/135_2.png) [@JM1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JM1)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suicide-help/6408/2 "2009-09-09T18:35:47Z")

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Make sure your string tension is perfect. That will make it much easier.

Also, bring your throwhand as close to the yo-yo as possible, that will make the loop about as big as it can get.

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**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suicide-help/6408/3 "2009-09-09T19:59:02Z")

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Also just experiment with putting the yoyo in a different spot (in relation to your hands), move to yoyo at a different speed, and just mess around with how you do it. You’ll find something that works.

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**Author:** ![yoyomac888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/c5a1d2/32.png) [@yoyomac888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyomac888)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suicide-help/6408/4 "2009-09-09T20:48:45Z")

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> [@JM1](#):
>
> Make sure your string tension is perfect. That will make it much easier.
> 
> Also, bring your throwhand as close to the yo-yo as possible, that will make the loop about as big as it can get.

Yup also try keeping the string right in the middle of the gap.