# Suggestion on buying new unresponsive bearings?

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [February 7, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927 "2024-02-07T21:49:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kingblood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@Kingblood](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kingblood)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/1 "2024-02-07T21:49:50Z")

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Im wanting to try some new bearings, any suggestions? I bought some yoyo king “center trac” bearings or at least thats what they are meant to resemble. They were barley average.

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**Author:** ![HappyYoyoer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/happyyoyoer/32/266188_2.png) [@HappyYoyoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HappyYoyoer)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/2 "2024-02-07T21:50:28Z")

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I like YYT VIP bearings 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Shapapy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shapapy/32/141199_2.png) [@Shapapy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shapapy)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/3 "2024-02-07T22:00:53Z")

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I like Original Throw concaves a lot. They’re some the best in their price range. Really smooth, quiet, spins gud.

> **[Original Throw Bearing](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/yo-yo-bearings/products/original-throw-bearing?variant=31465147367498)**
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> Original Throw is here to offer you top quality supplies at an affordable price. Every OT bearing is made with impeccable quality and excellent quality control. These concave string centering bearings offer a smooth precision spin that you will feel...

If you don’t mind paying a premium price (totally worth it though) snag any of the NSK bearings while they’re still in stock, depending on the shape you’re after. The YYR gold and platinum bearings are made by NSK.

> **[Yoyorecreation DS Bearing](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/yo-yo-bearings/products/yoyorecreation-ds-yoyo-bearing?variant=31089020424)**
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> Yoyorecreation is known for making some of the best performing yo-yos on the market, and they designed their new DS Bearing to the same standards of precision and perfection as every one of their yo-yos.The DS (Double Straight) Bearing is a double...

> **[NSK Concave Bearing](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/yo-yo-bearings/products/nsk-gold-concave-yoyo-bearings?variant=16467864289354)**
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> If you haven't heard of NSK, they manufacture some of the best bearings on the market. They are responsible for some of our favorites like Yoyorecreation DS Bearings, YYF Gold Center Trac Bearings, and these - NSK Gold Concave Bearings! These...

> **[YYF Center Trac Bearings by NSK](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/yo-yo-bearings/products/yoyofactory-center-trac-bearings-nsk?variant=46157265480)**
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> YoYoFactory collaborated with precision bearing manufacturer NSK Micro to take their Center Trac design to the next level! These bearings are manufactured to the highest tolerances with extremely strict quality control. They provide you with a...

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**Author:** ![djinni\_cake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/djinni_cake/32/113245_2.png) [@djinni\_cake](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/djinni_cake)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/4 "2024-02-07T23:41:22Z")

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I’m a big fan of Rain City Skills grooved bearings

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**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/5 "2024-02-08T00:43:22Z")

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YYR DS bearing is nice.

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**Author:** ![\_void](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/_void/32/179426_2.png) [@\_void](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/_void)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/6 "2024-02-08T07:34:33Z")

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I really like bearings from Atmos projects. Precise, smooth and quiet.

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**Author:** ![Arren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@Arren](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Arren)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/7 "2024-02-08T13:35:40Z")

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Have you looked into brands like Buddha Bearings or NSK?

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**Author:** ![Kingblood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@Kingblood](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kingblood)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/8 "2024-02-08T21:23:36Z")

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Im currently looking into buying some nsk bearings such as…the normal nsk concave, the yoyo creation DS(double straight) and the YYF center trac as well.  
However i may decide against the center track due to having bought a cheaper version of it and didnt exactly impress. Now i kno i should give the more expensive version a fair shake, i dunno. But now im looking into all these suggestions.

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**Author:** ![fradiger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fradiger/32/66850_2.png) [@fradiger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fradiger)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/9 "2024-02-08T21:30:05Z")

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Hollywood Modern Yoyos sells hand tested bearings in bulk, I just swap them in and out as I need and once I run out of cold spares I’ll mass clean them all 😛

I’ve found that literally no bearing can avoid maintenance in my experience.

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**Author:** ![Kingblood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@Kingblood](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kingblood)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/10 "2024-02-08T21:32:18Z")

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Im glad you said this, i have a question for you and everyone here…  
After cleaning a bearing and its totally dry and you do the spin cycle(as i call it) on the tip of a pencil ( i use a bearing removal tool to spin them on)., exacly how many seconds should a “good” bearing spin without having lubed it? A clean dry bearing spin time?

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**Author:** ![fradiger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fradiger/32/66850_2.png) [@fradiger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fradiger)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/11 "2024-02-08T21:36:45Z")

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I’ve been using codinghorror’s hyperspin technique from this thread for years now:

> [@Why you, yes you, should lube your yo-yo bearing](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-you-yes-you-should-lube-your-yo-yo-bearing/291865):
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> Before we begin, I’d like to note that this is historically one of the most controversial topics in yo-yoing. Take it from @Tvelto: [[My Unpopular Yoyo Opinions] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoGKRyksrbM&t=12m34s) I don’t know why this is a controversial opinion, but it totally is. This is my unpopular [yo-yo] opinion that has gotten more hate than any opinion I’ve ever stated … ever. Yo-yo lube, and lubing your bearings, is essential. Bearing runs smoother, bearing runs quieter. “Oh, my yo-yo is dead smooth!” Yeah, not if you don’…

That + onedrop v4m lube has gotten me good results over the years.

I unscrewed a few yoyos on my desk at random and the bearings spin for like 15-25s with a good flick

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**Author:** ![Kingblood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@Kingblood](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kingblood)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/12 "2024-02-08T21:46:49Z")

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Yea see, im struggling with this concept of lubing them. If i leave them dry i will sometimes get A pencil spin time of anywhere from 15-30 seconds.  
Last nite i belive i was experiencing what ive come to call “friction failure” my dry bearing was great spining and then i put it into my yoyo and theew a couple throws and… bam instant responsive behavior. Unscrewed it and that same “great” spinning bearing barely even spins.  
So i came up with an idea of using my “venom” thin yoyo lube and diluting it with 99% ispry alcohol and that brought that bearing back to life…at least so far. Any thoughts on that?

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**Author:** ![fradiger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fradiger/32/66850_2.png) [@fradiger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fradiger)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/13 "2024-02-08T21:50:43Z")

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there’s a ton of factors involved, in my experience the more humid your environment the more necessary lubing your bearings is

Could also help to clean the bearing seat of your yoyo and try a fresh string just as some sanity checks.

Sometimes bearings also just act weird, and doing a few fast/powerful (…just make sure you aren’t near anything to smack into) pinwheels often makes a responsive bearing unresponsive again for me.

I’ve never tried to thin yoyo lube further, I am not enough of a chemist to know the effects of it

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**Author:** ![Kingblood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@Kingblood](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kingblood)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/14 "2024-02-08T21:56:54Z")

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Yes i am all too familiar with “smacking” things with a yoyo…mainly my freaking face lol. Its like getting punched in the face when that has happened.  
And yes i do change my strings quite often and will keep up with the bearing seat cleaning. Maybe i just have some wierd bearings or something. It can be quite perplexing and frustrating.

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**Author:** ![Kingblood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@Kingblood](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kingblood)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/15 "2024-02-08T21:59:07Z")

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The reason i decided to thin out the thin lube even more was cuz no matter how small a drop i used…it made the bearing responsive. And i was using a sowing needle to put small drops in. So i decided to dilute it even more.

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**Author:** ![KorinaMcCarty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/korinamccarty/32/674591_2.png) [@KorinaMcCarty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/KorinaMcCarty)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/16 "2024-02-08T22:23:38Z")

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Try using a wooden toothpick. And it needs very, very little lube. Also, get a can of compressed air and spin that puppy up. I stick it on a chopstick when spinning it up. Also if a bearing gives me a problem the cover on one side is removed, easier to clean and lube

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/17 "2024-02-08T22:30:16Z")

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> [@fradiger](#):
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> I’ve been using codinghorror’s hyperspin technique from this thread for years now:

Aw, that’s sweet of you to say. I’m glad it is working for folks because I _do_ believe that’s the better way!

(There are also other good ways, for the record, so I’m not against any particular way, but that way I know works really well and really reliably…)

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**Author:** ![Kingblood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@Kingblood](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kingblood)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/18 "2024-02-08T23:02:20Z")

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Yea i got cha, unfortunately not to be a negative nancy, ive tried all those things…deshielded all my bearings for ease of cleaning, loaded up on compressed air cans. The only thing i havent tried is the chop stick method. As of now i use the wnd of my bearing removal tool for all my spin checks.

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**Author:** ![Kingblood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@Kingblood](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kingblood)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/19 "2024-02-08T23:06:25Z")

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So after cleaning a lubing a bearing i should be having a what  
…10 second (pencil/chopstick/bearing removal tool) spin time?

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**Author:** ![KorinaMcCarty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/korinamccarty/32/674591_2.png) [@KorinaMcCarty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/KorinaMcCarty)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/suggestion-on-buying-new-unresponsive-bearings/393927/20 "2024-02-08T23:06:58Z")

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What are using to clean the bearing? And, it may just be a dud

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