# string?

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [December 16, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659 "2012-12-16T18:02:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/21 "2012-12-17T05:15:48Z")

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Elliott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Jake\_Elliott](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jake_Elliott)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/22 "2012-12-17T05:17:15Z")

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A faster string makes a triple brent stole a LOT easier.

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**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/23 "2012-12-17T05:21:17Z")

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Elliott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Jake\_Elliott](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jake_Elliott)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/24 "2012-12-17T05:30:40Z")

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Sure.

Heavier string moves faster through the air than lighter string. While you certainly can’t pin speed down to a certain type of thread or a certain material, nylon threads and most all types of embroidery threads tend to move much quicker than your standard poly. Thinner threads tend to move faster then thicker threads, and thicker strings tend to move faster than thinner strings.

It’s difficult to describe why a certain string is faster than another. I’m not great at physics. However, the heavier the string, the faster it moves. More energy that you’re able to put into it, or something.

However, to say that strings don’t move at different speeds is quite incorrect. The speed at which string moves is one of the major differences in different kinds of string.

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**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/25 "2012-12-17T05:45:48Z")

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Can’t really add much to what Jake said, but I’m going to anyhow: It’s self-evident that some strings move faster than others. It’s simply physics. Not all strings are the same dimensions or weight, and they don’t have the same tensile properties. If you really need it explained to you, it’s clear you haven’t really tried a variety of truly different strings (ie. not just variations on bulk poly). Or if you did, it was so long ago that you’ve forgotten.

At an exaggerated scale, get yourself a length of sewing thread. Start whipping it around in a circle. Then get a skipping rope or something similar. Reproduce the same motion. The sewing thread will start to follow itself, while the skipping rope will stay more or less taught from end to end so that you can smack it against the ground. Or to put it another way: good luck skipping with a length of thread. You won’t be able to whip it around your feet!

The same properties that make it different to whip a thread around vs. whipping a skipping rope around translate to yoyo string. The range of difference is less because yoyo string still needs to meet certain criteria. But this is what’s known as a “counter-argument” in formal logic. If you can prove the extreme case, then the narrower case must also be true even if on a lesser scale.

It really shouldn’t require this much explanation… it seems so (hate to repeat myself) self-evident.

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**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/26 "2012-12-17T05:49:07Z")

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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/27 "2012-12-17T05:52:04Z")

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I’ll tell you this. I’ve been throwing for just over a year now. I have resisted slack tricks because I suck at them. Something simple like a slack trapeze still has me befuddled. And I get frustrated quickly. So I try a few times, fail and give up. But, if there’s a string out there that can help me improve faster and thus stick with practicing longer, I’ll definitely try it.

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Elliott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Jake\_Elliott](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jake_Elliott)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/28 "2012-12-17T05:54:44Z")

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The weight difference is much more than you would think. If I compare the lightest string I make and the heaviest, the difference is probably over a gram. (At average string length. I haven’t measured grams/centimeters on my strings.)

The heavier string will let me do jade whip about twice as fast, maybe even three times as fast.

Faster string won’t make you suddenly a master of slacks, but it can certainly help you out.

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**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/29 "2012-12-17T06:03:17Z")

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**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/30 "2012-12-17T06:07:42Z")

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**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/31 "2012-12-17T06:09:33Z")

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> [@Jerrod](#):
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> @GregP  
> I’ve tried many types of strings. The difference isn’t significant enough to justify spending the extra cash. I understand the simple physics of it. You don’t have to talk down to me. It’s just the fact that the narrower case’s scale is soo much less, I find it ridiculous for it to amount to soo much difference in results. Example:
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> > [@Jerrod](#):
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> > someone who can “barely do a brent stole with regular kitty string” to be able to do a triple just because of the string.
> 
> Anyway, I stand by my original statement. This is just my opinion. Normal poly works for me. Use whatever string makes you happy, works for you, and keeps you throwing.

Not intending to talk down to you; it was simply quite literal… it may have been a while since you tried those strings! As for the rest of the explanation, well, you asked! I wouldn’t have answered if you hadn’t asked, and I do have a tendency to over-explain…

I’ve been told I come off condescending at times, and I do believe people who tell me that… but it’s unintentional. Still, I apologize since that’s how it came across!

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**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/32 "2012-12-17T06:17:52Z")

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Elliott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Jake\_Elliott](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jake_Elliott)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/33 "2012-12-17T06:19:46Z")

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> [@Jerrod](#):
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> > [@Jake Elliott](#):
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> > The weight difference is much more than you would think. If I compare the lightest string I make and the heaviest, the difference is probably over a gram. (At average string length. I haven’t measured grams/centimeters on my strings.)
> > 
> > The heavier string will let me do jade whip about twice as fast, maybe even three times as fast.
> > 
> > Faster string won’t make you suddenly a master of slacks, but it can certainly help you out.
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> > [@Jerrod](#):
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> > I just think we are going to have to agree to disagree.

Uhm, what?

It’s an objective fact that some strings are considerably heavier than others. It is also an objective fact that some strings are faster than others as well. I’m not even getting into factors that contribute to how much control the string has (attributes that actually do make complex slacks easier that at independent from speed)

I don see how this is a matter of opinion.

As for certain strings making you “better” at slacks, they certainly can make you be able to do more with the skill that you already have.

It’s like upgrading from a stick to a golf club. Sure, they can both do the same thing, but one makes it tons easier.

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**Author:** ![Jerrod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jerrod/32/367145_2.png) [@Jerrod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jerrod)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/34 "2012-12-17T06:27:42Z")

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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/35 "2012-12-17T06:53:27Z")

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I just bought 30 strings from Jake tonight because of this thread.

So Jake, you DO win :wink:  
But I expect to be able to do no handed binds by yesterday!

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**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/36 "2012-12-17T08:23:29Z")

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> [@Jerrod](#):
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> Actually, I’m going to exit this discussion with this. This is Guy Wright using YYN Highlights:  
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU\_L5Wz59yB3-b\_EFkGjNgcQ&v=l7TwaGa-UOQ&feature=player\_detailpage](http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU_L5Wz59yB3-b_EFkGjNgcQ&v=l7TwaGa-UOQ&feature=player_detailpage)
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> @Jake  
> Sorry. I’m through arguing with you. I didn’t even read all of your post. Don’t want to. No offense. If it makes you feel better, I’ll say that you won. Here:
> 
> Jake, you win.
> 
> Have a good night. 🙂

I just want you to know, that if there was an award for biggest patronizing jerk on this forum, I’d be front runner. I’m a jerk, and that’s a plain fact.

That being said, you are the most patronizing person I have ever seen… Anywhere. Seriously, I didn’t think anybody could be worse than some of my jerkish shennanigans, but WOW. You really stole that award out from under me, while being sincere in your post.

I’m gonna have to step up my game if I want to be the biggest jerk on the forum. You really raised the bar here.

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Elliott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Jake\_Elliott](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jake_Elliott)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/37 "2012-12-17T11:09:31Z")

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> [@Q](#):
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> > [@Jerrod](#):
> >
> > Actually, I’m going to exit this discussion with this. This is Guy Wright using YYN Highlights:  
> > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU\_L5Wz59yB3-b\_EFkGjNgcQ&v=l7TwaGa-UOQ&feature=player\_detailpage](http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU_L5Wz59yB3-b_EFkGjNgcQ&v=l7TwaGa-UOQ&feature=player_detailpage)
> > 
> > @Jake  
> > Sorry. I’m through arguing with you. I didn’t even read all of your post. Don’t want to. No offense. If it makes you feel better, I’ll say that you won. Here:
> > 
> > Jake, you win.
> > 
> > Have a good night. 🙂
> 
> I just want you to know, that if there was an award for biggest patronizing jerk on this forum, I’d be front runner. I’m a jerk, and that’s a plain fact.
> 
> That being said, you are the most patronizing person I have ever seen… Anywhere. Seriously, I didn’t think anybody could be worse than some of my jerkish shennanigans, but WOW. You really stole that award out from under me, while being sincere in your post.
> 
> I’m gonna have to step up my game if I want to be the biggest jerk on the forum. You really raised the bar here.

Q, you win.

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**Author:** ![supbreh1234](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/supbreh1234/32/1131_2.png) [@supbreh1234](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/supbreh1234)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/38 "2012-12-17T15:42:12Z")

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Look for twisted strings type D-Minus. Its crazy.

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**Author:** ![MattB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattb/32/14529_2.png) [@MattB](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MattB)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/39 "2012-12-17T17:02:48Z")

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Most talented players can do just about all their tricks with most yoyos. However, it’s nice and enjoyable to throw with a well balanced and stable yoyo. You can feel the difference.

Yes, basic poly can whip and slack, it will work fine.

Strings with a little more weight have an edge maintaining momentum. Also fibers that are slicker have less air resistance. The difference between whipping with basic poly and say a string of the same thickness made from trilobal (embroidery) thread is immediately recognizable.

Here is basic poly close up:

[http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8213/8281702342\_f3defe5bc4.jpg](http://www.flickr.com/photos/yoyostringlab/8281702342/)  
[Basic Poly Example](http://www.flickr.com/photos/yoyostringlab/8281702342/) on Flickr

And here is trilobal:

[http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8480/8281705474\_de76b2078b.jpg](http://www.flickr.com/photos/yoyostringlab/8281705474/)  
[Trilobal string](http://www.flickr.com/photos/yoyostringlab/8281705474/) on Flickr

Years ago, I used to make a trilobal string. That thing whipped like lightning, but it would slip around your finger and didn’t have bounce.

> [@Y0Y0SR2PR0](#):
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> what string do yoyu recommend for slak and whips?

If you want a really fast whipping string, try Toxic. If you want something more moderate, try one of the other makers’ strings.

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**Author:** ![Bcmaddog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bcmaddog/32/1170_2.png) [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/string/46659/40 "2012-12-17T18:05:45Z")

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100% polyester.

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