# Stealing Tricks?
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/stealing-tricks/16605
**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks
**Created:** [July 12, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/stealing-tricks/16605 "2010-07-12T03:04:45Z")
**Posts on this page:** 13
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### Author:  [@Smoke770077](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Smoke770077)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/stealing-tricks/16605/1 "2010-07-12T03:04:45Z")
Im trying to build a 5A freestyle for Ohio States… I like 5A a bit more, and have more fun with it… I just realized though… I suck… And dont even know three minutes worth of tricks… Thats a long time when you think about it… I only have about 45 seconds of rutine so far.
I was wondering… Is it wrong to steal other players tricks and use them? Like Tyler Severance’s 5A Gyro Flop or Under the Leg Combo (From Cal states 2010) or maybe Beversticks or somthing else from Tie McClellen?
What do you guys think?
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### Author:  [@lleraH](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lleraH)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2010, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/stealing-tricks/16605/2 "2010-07-12T03:06:50Z")
Hmm, it depends. It’s not stealing but plagiarizing?
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### Author:  [@Mattylightning](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mattylightning)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/stealing-tricks/16605/3 "2010-07-12T03:13:46Z")
> [@Mitch](#):
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> Im trying to build a 5A freestyle for Ohio States… I like 5A a bit more, and have more fun with it… I just realized though… I suck… And dont even know three minutes worth of tricks… Thats a long time when you think about it… I only have about 45 seconds of rutine so far.
>
> I was wondering… Is it wrong to steal other players tricks and use them? Like Tyler Severance’s 5A Gyro Flop or Under the Leg Combo (From Cal states 2010) or maybe Beversticks or somthing else from Tie McClellen?
>
> What do you guys think?
i look at it this way, Imitation is the biggest form of flattery.
if anything take the trick and add some of your own flare to it
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### Author:  [@Smoke770077](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Smoke770077)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2010, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/stealing-tricks/16605/4 "2010-07-12T03:17:47Z")
> [@lleraH](#):
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> Hmm, it depends. It’s not stealing but plagiarizing?
I wouldn’t say that… If needed I’m more than willing to cite my sources, and not planning to take credit as its my own trick…
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### Author:  [@hyperyo000](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hyperyo000)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2010, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/stealing-tricks/16605/5 "2010-07-12T03:21:39Z")
I think a lot of kids do it anyway. Has tyler or beverchakus made a tutorial on it. If they did then I say use it cause he gave it to the world.
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### Author:  [@DYonch](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DYonch)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2010, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/stealing-tricks/16605/6 "2010-07-12T03:31:33Z")
I steal tricks all the time, and so do a lot of players better than you or me. Go for it.
BTW, JonRob actually made up that flop and Beverchakus isn’t the most original to begin with, so you are just stealing tricks from people that stole them.
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### Author:  [@x52](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/x52)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2010, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/stealing-tricks/16605/7 "2010-07-12T03:34:15Z")
It’s perfectly fine. Nothing wrong with it. Just copy off of them. :wink:
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### Author:  [@Smoke770077](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Smoke770077)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/stealing-tricks/16605/8 "2010-07-12T03:39:30Z")
> [@DJKei](#):
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> I think a lot of kids do it anyway. Has tyler or beverchakus made a tutorial on it. If they did then I say use it cause he gave it to the world.
Well, some tricks are from tuts… (Beversticks), and others I’ve figured out myself (Tylers JonRobs Gyro flop)
> [@DYonch](#):
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> I steal tricks all the time, and so do a lot of players better than you or me. Go for it.
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> BTW, JonRob actually made up that flop and Beverchakus isn’t the most original to begin with, so you are just stealing tricks from people that stole them.
Did he really? Thats kinda awesome…
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### Author:  [@DYonch](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DYonch)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/stealing-tricks/16605/9 "2010-07-12T03:42:38Z")
Tyler also made one up. It is in the DE 5A Video (archived at [savedeth.com](http://savedeth.com)). It is a little cooler in my opinion because it is from a triangle not just a toilet mount.
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### Author:  [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/stealing-tricks/16605/10 "2010-07-12T03:45:43Z")
It’s hard to be original nowadays, so sometimes you’ll end up stealing something unintentionally. 😛
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### Author:  [@lleraH](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lleraH)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2010, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/stealing-tricks/16605/11 "2010-07-12T03:49:17Z")
Or you think you made this super awesome trick that nobody’s seen before, then you see an eight year old kid doing it like it’s nobody’s business.
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### Author:  [@Smoke770077](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Smoke770077)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2010, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/stealing-tricks/16605/12 "2010-07-12T03:49:32Z")
> [@DYonch](#):
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> Tyler also made one up. It is in the DE 5A Video (archived at [savedeth.com](http://savedeth.com)). It is a little cooler in my opinion because it is from a triangle not just a toilet mount.
I cant find the video… And whats a toilet mount? Is that just the double or nothing double wrapped for the flop?
edit: nm… found it. its pretty amazing…
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### Author:  [@DYonch](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DYonch)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2010, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/stealing-tricks/16605/13 "2010-07-12T03:57:01Z")
[http://savedeth.com/blog/?p=56](http://savedeth.com/blog/?p=56)
A toilet mount is anything where the die is stuck in the string formation…
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQc27CMqb4E)