# Spin top learning curve (it’s not a curve)

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**Category:** Spin Tops\
**Created:** [July 25, 2023, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125 "2023-07-25T14:32:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Splizacular](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/splizacular/32/640487_2.png) [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/61 "2024-10-18T15:25:38Z")

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betta make a video! 😁

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**Author:** ![kevinm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kevinm/32/697_2.png) [@kevinm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kevinm)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/62 "2024-10-18T17:05:32Z")

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For me, fixed tip really opens up the fun part of throwing, after playing fixed tip, the bearing tops just feel like dead weight. There are some kinda cool bearing tricks, but they don’t really grab me like the fixed tricks do.

 ![1000002176](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/6/e/c6e70a0959718360e45f9412f7b89b5e6673cc80.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/63 "2024-10-18T17:29:50Z")

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Now I can make the S8 top fixed by tightening the nut, is that right?

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**Author:** ![kevinm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kevinm/32/697_2.png) [@kevinm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kevinm)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/64 "2024-10-18T18:08:34Z")

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You need to put a plastic washer and a metal washer over the top bearing first. I have also made a washer from an old inner tube, but you would still want a slightly larger OD washer on top than the stock one.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/6/5/76565937f4aa9e495db5b531cb22f5ead72a353a.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/65 "2024-10-19T02:58:05Z")

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After rereading your comment, i now understand what you’re saying. And i agree completely. So let me state: throwing a top isn’t easy. It is a skill. But I do believe that if someone really wants to, and that someone has a helpful instructor, it can be learned quickly and enjoyably.  
Then after the spinner and some basics, it gets increasingly difficult exponentially. But always fun.

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/66 "2024-10-19T19:15:17Z")

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New mini combo. Precession Chaser. Whip, martillo, joker choker. Action every half precession.

The wind is insane today and I’m playing with my kids at the park so 30 seconds seemed long enough lol.

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**Author:** ![DaneMartin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/danemartin/32/291735_2.png) [@DaneMartin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DaneMartin)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/67 "2024-10-22T04:37:35Z")

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Custom top from Ed Davidson

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/68 "2024-10-24T23:11:30Z")

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def jelly, what a gorgeous top!

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**Author:** ![kevinm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kevinm/32/697_2.png) [@kevinm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kevinm)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/69 "2024-10-30T17:28:33Z")

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Is that solid ?

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**Author:** ![DaneMartin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/danemartin/32/291735_2.png) [@DaneMartin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DaneMartin)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/70 "2024-10-30T21:20:00Z")

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It’s got a hole punched through the middle with a decorative pog affixed in the crown

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**Author:** ![DaneMartin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/danemartin/32/291735_2.png) [@DaneMartin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DaneMartin)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/71 "2024-10-30T21:23:39Z")

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Not sure if this is to become the “show off my new top thread” but Ed made me a new one. This will probably be my new EDC. Same dimensions, but perfectly smooth and like half the weight. It’s 80gr. Oh and I requested a Diablo tip for string play. It’s absolutely fantastic.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/72 "2024-10-30T21:27:19Z")

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Not sure if that was the whole video.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/73 "2024-10-30T22:32:53Z")

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I picked up this from Dave Schulte today.

 ![1000002268](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/2/3/c2399eb7e37190cdebe1e86cc7277d36b5676873.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 3:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/74 "2024-11-04T03:47:48Z")

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A little behind the back whip action with my favorite Trompo Grande. The hardest part about this trick was keeping it level while I brought it around after the catch! Deciding to be tip in or tip out made for long practices lol.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/75 "2024-11-04T12:15:22Z")

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That’s pretty crazy, looks very impressive. I have never tried to do a whip catch behind my back. The initial throw looks like it would be a bit hard too, I will have to play with that, but I wouldn’t have the steel nerves required to practice inside 🤣 .  
On a technical note, isn’t your back already behind you? I mean it seems to me that if something was behind my back, it would be in front of me. I’m always thinking.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/76 "2024-11-04T12:17:24Z")

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Dang dude!!! You have made such killer progress.

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/77 "2024-11-12T21:26:09Z")

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I did 27 Sewing Machine regens with this today, that’s probably the best run i have had yet. Starting to get the hang of it, the Dazzling Dave regen tutorial has helped me a bunch.

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/78 "2024-11-12T22:21:16Z")

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Good gracious that is one giant top.

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/79 "2024-11-12T23:08:28Z")

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Yeah, Srummol8 Sara, it weighs about 260g. Big and slow, big tip, makes catching it and controlling the path of it on the pull back easier than a smaller, lighter top. It is easier to get a feel for keeping the top in the right space and pulling back at the right time with a heavier top, hopefully my feel for it will get developed so I can do it on much smaller tops.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-top-learning-curve-it-s-not-a-curve/381125/80 "2024-11-13T03:59:53Z")

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Just bouncing back and forth between a few ideas here. My next patch will be the freestyle patch. So I recorded myself to see where I can fit other stuff. I think I’ll add a ration of drum beats between the two subways?

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