# Spin time gets REALLY short during tricks **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [October 18, 2010, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-time-gets-really-short-during-tricks/20143 "2010-10-18T15:22:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hadoq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hadoq/32/688_2.png) [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-time-gets-really-short-during-tricks/20143/1 "2010-10-18T15:22:32Z")
Hello, I was wondering I’m a total newbie so my throw is as good as it can get with 1 week or so of practice. so here’s my problem, in the tricks where the yoyo is mounted on 2 layers of string (or more for that matter) the speed drops at an amazing rate Brain twister, I can barely do 3 loops split the atom/split bottom mount, can’t go through the whole trick I have a rebadged FAST 201 and using 100% poly henrys strings I’m aware my throw is part of the problem but aren’t the starbust overly slowing the yoyo when there are too much string in it ? thanks ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-time-gets-really-short-during-tricks/20143/2 "2010-10-18T15:32:13Z")
It’s mostly your throw. I can do many more brain twisters than that with a 201. However, the starburst on those (they stick out really really far; they aren’t the traditional starburst) does tend to give problems. ---
**Author:** ![hadoq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hadoq/32/688_2.png) [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-time-gets-really-short-during-tricks/20143/3 "2010-10-18T15:37:29Z")
that’s what i was afraid, but no wonder my throw is not consistent enough. about how much training does it take (generally) to get a consistent strong throw ? thanks for the reply ---
**Author:** ![Ariq\_PGM\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19adc/32.png) [@Ariq\_PGM\_2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ariq_PGM_2)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-time-gets-really-short-during-tricks/20143/4 "2010-10-18T18:07:53Z")
It just get better with every throw. ---
**Author:** ![Badd2bone85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Badd2bone85](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Badd2bone85)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-time-gets-really-short-during-tricks/20143/5 "2010-10-18T18:15:27Z")
with my 201 i took off the caps and cut out every other starburst spike on both sides, then when you tighten the yoyo just offset them. it will have a lot less response. but then for looping trick you can tighten it so the spikes line up and it responds more. ---
**Author:** ![hadoq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hadoq/32/688_2.png) [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-time-gets-really-short-during-tricks/20143/6 "2010-10-18T20:35:11Z")
thanks, but what does it do, if I would to take out the caps ? ---
**Author:** ![hadoq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hadoq/32/688_2.png) [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/spin-time-gets-really-short-during-tricks/20143/7 "2010-10-21T11:34:42Z")
problem solved now that I got my velocity V3, no more starbursts eating my string, spin time were greatly increased I can now do mach 5 without a problem and split the atom is getting there as well