# Speeder 2 /w protostar or northstar/w protostar?

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**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [September 15, 2012, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/speeder-2-w-protostar-or-northstar-w-protostar/42809 "2012-09-15T23:30:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![gaara4sand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@gaara4sand](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/gaara4sand)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/speeder-2-w-protostar-or-northstar-w-protostar/42809/1 "2012-09-15T23:30:58Z")

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speed, variety, play, performance, and competition use should be taken into account please.

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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/speeder-2-w-protostar-or-northstar-w-protostar/42809/2 "2012-09-15T23:46:26Z")

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> [@gaara4sand](#):
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> speed, variety, play, performance, and competition use should be taken into account please.

What sort of speed, play, performance and competition are you looking for?

I see a lot of Protostars and Northstars used for competition. I don’t see the Speeder being used at least not on the West Coast. Even so, I like the Speeder and it would be an excellent competition throw.

Speeder 2 is fast, designed for speed and really picks up the pace with a KK installed.

Protostar and Northstar are identical shapes, different weights. As a result, the Protostar being lighter seems to want to move faster. Worlds 2012 was won using a Northstar.

The Speeder plays smoother than the Protostar and Northstar in my experience, but any vibe isn’t a distraction to play in either of them. Any of them will take you a long ways.

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**Author:** ![DrAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drawesome/32/1139_2.png) [@DrAwesome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DrAwesome)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 3:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/speeder-2-w-protostar-or-northstar-w-protostar/42809/3 "2012-09-16T03:45:10Z")

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i would go with the speeder 2 and the northstar/protostar that way you get more variety

now choosing between the northstar and protostar. Do you like heavier or lighter throws? if you want to play fast get the protostar. I find it easier to move around with less weight. If you want horizontal go with the northstar. I find the weight to help with balance for some reason.