# Sort of Starter YoYo **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [February 7, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sort-of-starter-yoyo/23559 "2011-02-07T16:01:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Morgoroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/morgoroth/32/795_2.png) [@Morgoroth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Morgoroth)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sort-of-starter-yoyo/23559/1 "2011-02-07T16:01:50Z")
I learned how to yo-yo in middle school and am sort of getting back into it. I think I need a better Yo-Yo, but I am pretty unskilled at the moment so I am not sure if it is just me. I have a couple of solid axle Duncans (butterfly and imperial) and a Yomega Brain, but I am not really satisfied with any of them. The Yomega is sort of un-responsive (sometimes it does not like to wake up), and the duncan does not sleep long enough to do any string tricks. Anyway, how long should I be able to get these guys to sleep? And is there a good starter Yo-Yo you guys would recommend? I am thinking under $20 by the way, (can you get a good yo-yo for that?) and maybe something with ball bearings. ---
**Author:** ![XminusmikeX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xminusmikex/32/294_2.png) [@XminusmikeX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/XminusmikeX)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sort-of-starter-yoyo/23559/2 "2011-02-07T16:10:55Z")
There are a number of great throws for under $20 that you will be able to do most (if not all) tricks on. I would suggest any of the $15-$20 yoyo’s that are on here. They are all great! My personal fav’s would have to be either the Duncan Freehand Zero, Duncan Freehand 2, or the YoYoJam Kickside. I hope that helps. ---
**Author:** ![pinhead](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pinhead/32/123421_2.png) [@pinhead](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pinhead)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sort-of-starter-yoyo/23559/3 "2011-02-07T16:14:17Z")
that good sir would be a lyn fury, kickside, free hand zero or custom “your choice.” Or a shinwoo phantom “although I don’t know how much give will come with it.” lyn, kick, and FHZ would be my top choices. ---
**Author:** ![Camjameron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/camjameron/32/775_2.png) [@Camjameron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Camjameron)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sort-of-starter-yoyo/23559/4 "2011-02-07T16:53:48Z")
yyj kickside ---
**Author:** ![Morgoroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/morgoroth/32/795_2.png) [@Morgoroth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Morgoroth)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sort-of-starter-yoyo/23559/5 "2011-02-07T17:02:21Z")
So do you guys thingk a butterfly or imperial style would be better? Also, I have been watching the videos, what is he using there? The red one with the metal rim. ---
**Author:** ![zerrubabbel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zerrubabbel/32/592_2.png) [@zerrubabbel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zerrubabbel)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sort-of-starter-yoyo/23559/6 "2011-02-07T19:56:05Z")
the shape depends on what you want to do, string tricks work best with butterfly while looping tricks work best with immperial… generally butterfly is better for starting because a big beginner concern is sleep time… i recommend the yyf velocity, its about 20 dollars and can be as responsive or unresponsive as you desire… which means it will take you a long way while learning to yoyo ---
**Author:** ![yoyomatt2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f19dbf/32.png) [@yoyomatt2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyomatt2)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sort-of-starter-yoyo/23559/7 "2011-02-07T20:18:00Z")
i liked the velocity 8) ---
**Author:** ![yoyoFRReeak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyofrreeak/32/621_2.png) [@yoyoFRReeak](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoFRReeak)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sort-of-starter-yoyo/23559/8 "2011-02-07T21:21:20Z")
I wouldnt go with the velocity… Too many flaws. such as string gets caught under bearing alot. Response is not all what it is made out to be. So I would go with the… KICKSIDE by YOYOJAM ---
**Author:** ![j\_lowell9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/j_lowell9/32/358_2.png) [@j\_lowell9](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/j_lowell9)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sort-of-starter-yoyo/23559/9 "2011-02-07T21:40:55Z")
kickside by yyj or the yyf one which has not been released yet ---
**Author:** ![hadoq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hadoq/32/688_2.png) [@hadoq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hadoq)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sort-of-starter-yoyo/23559/10 "2011-02-08T12:04:35Z")
YYF One is THE beginner throw, I actually think that ONE\>Velocity and I started on a velocity other than that, YYJ kickside, lyn fury are good choices as well I kinda like the duncan FHZ too, plus you get cool counter weights, just in case