# Some super advanced meta tricks? Post them here!

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**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\
**Created:** [September 14, 2020, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/some-super-advanced-meta-tricks-post-them-here/327139 "2020-09-14T21:05:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Onefanatic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/onefanatic/32/101281_2.png) [@Onefanatic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Onefanatic)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/some-super-advanced-meta-tricks-post-them-here/327139/1 "2020-09-14T21:05:47Z")

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I really enjoy yoyoing, and competing, but I don’t know very many high scoring elements. If you have any arm, neck, or meta tech elements, or some horizontal tips, please share.

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**Author:** ![William4842](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/william4842/32/101481_2.png) [@William4842](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/William4842)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/some-super-advanced-meta-tricks-post-them-here/327139/2 "2020-09-15T20:48:56Z")

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Horizontal tips, I can help!

First off, throw hard. I know this sounds weird (and maybe even redundant), but what I see a lot is people who throw soft because they are scared or something like that.

Second: Do the freaking banana turnover. When I was learning horizontal for the first time, I thought it would look more “pro” if I just threw as hard as possible and land directly into the string. Yeah, don’t flipping do that.

Third: You may consider wanting to throw with a nicer responsive yoyo. When I say nicer, I mean something like the Sage or something like that where there are pads and not starburst response. I tried using a Duncan Butterfly XT and while it did help with some aspects later, it caused a lot of heartaches when I could not land tricks.

Fourth: Once you got a feel for throwing and turning over, you are ready for unresponsive. I would use a wider yoyo. For you, that’s not a problem because your favorite is the Edge Beyond.

Now, when you are learning these tricks you want to do them vertically first. I mean like master them vertically

Finally, you will panic the first few times. Dude, I still panic every time I throw the dang thing, just remain in control otherwise it all goes wrong. To stay in control, you cannot stop. This doesn’t mean be speed combo fast, you can move slowly, you just can’t stop yoyo or it will fall off.

I don’t have any tricks for meta (unless you want 5a), but I have included a link you might find helpful.

> [@How do Contests work?](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/how-do-contests-work/60410):
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> Hey, so i´ve been following contests for a little while now. And i enjoyed it! But I still have no idea how the actual scoring system works smiley I´ve heard of “clicks” and i´ve seen the score sheets… but how does it actually work in detail? How does someone enter a Contest in the Pro Divisions, how do the prelims work… how many go to Finals (fixed number? or flexible) and how do you gain points? really interested in this smiley Thanks

I hope this all helps!

-Aidan

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**Author:** ![Onefanatic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/onefanatic/32/101281_2.png) [@Onefanatic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Onefanatic)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/some-super-advanced-meta-tricks-post-them-here/327139/3 "2020-09-15T21:55:14Z")

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Thanks man! That’s really going to help.

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**Author:** ![Pinktweetybird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Pinktweetybird](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pinktweetybird)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/some-super-advanced-meta-tricks-post-them-here/327139/4 "2020-09-15T22:10:52Z")

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This was a fantastic reply sir. thank you

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**Author:** ![Ducto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ducto](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ducto)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/some-super-advanced-meta-tricks-post-them-here/327139/5 "2020-09-15T22:18:11Z")

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Quick note here, I don’t actually think the edge beyond is a great yoyo to learn horizontal on. The effective catch zone is actually quite small because the rims are super broad.

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**Author:** ![William4842](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/william4842/32/101481_2.png) [@William4842](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/William4842)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/some-super-advanced-meta-tricks-post-them-here/327139/6 "2020-09-15T23:02:46Z")

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You know I did not think about that, good catch.

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**Author:** ![Onefanatic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/onefanatic/32/101281_2.png) [@Onefanatic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Onefanatic)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/some-super-advanced-meta-tricks-post-them-here/327139/7 "2020-09-16T00:02:54Z")

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i acctaly dont have the edge beyond anymore. i broke it one day. i am now using the edge.

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**Author:** ![Mystik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mystik/32/83294_2.png) [@Mystik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mystik)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 4:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/some-super-advanced-meta-tricks-post-them-here/327139/8 "2020-09-16T04:01:55Z")

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> [@William4842](#):
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> unless you want 5a

Yes please😁

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**Author:** ![William4842](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/william4842/32/101481_2.png) [@William4842](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/William4842)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/some-super-advanced-meta-tricks-post-them-here/327139/9 "2020-09-17T13:57:31Z")

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You got it, give me like a week. I have a trick I have been working on that I would love to share and it’s almost ready!

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**Author:** ![William4842](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/william4842/32/101481_2.png) [@William4842](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/William4842)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/some-super-advanced-meta-tricks-post-them-here/327139/10 "2020-09-24T00:14:31Z")

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Mystik,

The trick you have been waiting for…

This is a simple, but good looking aerial combo. It’s inspired by Yoshihiro Abe. I call it Aerial Inbound.

![4g2ao1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/4/9/e49944a38e648b31c739a4d8db1ee5392331229f.gif)

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**Author:** ![Mystik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mystik/32/83294_2.png) [@Mystik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mystik)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/some-super-advanced-meta-tricks-post-them-here/327139/11 "2020-09-24T00:25:42Z")

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I dig it! That’s great stuff, I’ll be working on that tomorrow in the daylight.:+1:

Thanks @William4842!

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**Author:** ![William4842](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/william4842/32/101481_2.png) [@William4842](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/William4842)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/some-super-advanced-meta-tricks-post-them-here/327139/12 "2020-09-24T00:44:03Z")

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Your so welcome, I can’t wait to see it!!
