# So, I made my first YoYo

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [March 14, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375 "2015-03-14T16:57:19Z")
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### Author: ![Fellhoelter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fellhoelter/32/286497_2.png) [@Fellhoelter](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Fellhoelter)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/101 "2015-03-17T22:28:19Z")

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Here’s a piece, in the lathe.

[http://fellhoelter.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/IMG\_1848.jpg](http://fellhoelter.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/IMG_1848.jpg)

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#### Post date: [March 17, 2015, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/102 "2015-03-17T22:55:55Z")

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How does it feel in the hand? Maybe it it was a bit wider it’d be more comforatble

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#### Post date: [March 17, 2015, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/103 "2015-03-17T23:00:38Z")

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Feels good to me, but I don’t know any better.

37mm wide already!

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### Author: ![NathanC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathanc/32/891_2.png) [@NathanC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NathanC)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/104 "2015-03-17T23:02:50Z")

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Wow, that looks incredible… Pretty hilarious that a garage tinkerer can churn out a titanium yoyo in a few days with none to little yoyo knowledge yet the huge companies seem unwilling to touch the substance even though selling titanium yoyos is basically like printing money. Knock 8g off the weight and they’d sell like wildfire…

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### Author: ![Fellhoelter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fellhoelter/32/286497_2.png) [@Fellhoelter](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Fellhoelter)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2015, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/105 "2015-03-17T23:10:07Z")

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8g?

I’m getting ready to run another one, but I am only expecting 4g.

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#### Post date: [March 17, 2015, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/106 "2015-03-17T23:11:02Z")

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And for what it’s worth, I make a LOT of stuff out of titanium.

I make my living off of it in fact.

And, it’s already been 3 whole weeks since the first time I ever ran a CNC lathe!

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### Author: ![Fellhoelter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fellhoelter/32/286497_2.png) [@Fellhoelter](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Fellhoelter)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/107 "2015-03-18T00:19:39Z")

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[https://instagram.com/p/0WTOoUJKXz/](https://instagram.com/p/0WTOoUJKXz/)

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#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/108 "2015-03-18T00:42:08Z")

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The wall of the response area where the curve starts and the silicone ring ends could be a little smaller but that seriously looks like a great throw.

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#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/109 "2015-03-18T01:04:08Z")

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I left a bit there on purpose, hoping it would help me bind…

And It’s no mystery why the big companies don’t make Titanium YoYo’s

Figuring time and material on these today, and they would be $300 + , which means they would likely be $400+ after moving through distributors and stuff.

I honestly don’t know, but my gut tells me that the market is mostly young folks without that kind of expendable cash, making high priced Titanium a niche market, and not all that attractive to the big boys.

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### Author: ![NathanC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathanc/32/891_2.png) [@NathanC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NathanC)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/110 "2015-03-18T01:47:19Z")

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> [@Fellhoelter](#):
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> I left a bit there on purpose, hoping it would help me bind…
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> And It’s no mystery why the big companies don’t make Titanium YoYo’s
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> Figuring time and material on these today, and they would be $300 + , which means they would likely be $400+ after moving through distributors and stuff.
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> I honestly don’t know, but my gut tells me that the market is mostly young folks without that kind of expendable cash, making high priced Titanium a niche market, and not all that attractive to the big boys.

Yoyorecreation has sold through numerous runs of their Dazzler, a titanium yoyo, which depending on exchange rates has cost $500-$600. It’s not even a particularly great or innovative yoyo (i own one), but they still sell a huge amount. The market is probably a lot bigger than you imagine. I’d shell out $400 this second for a titanium yoyo in the specs i wanted. Love the material.

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#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/111 "2015-03-18T02:28:24Z")

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Well, that definitely makes it worth thinking about!

Just looked up the Dazzler, $650 here at YoYoExpert.

Not surprised at the price, but am a little surprised there’s a market.

It’s definitely a beatable price too, as my initial estimate is $300 - $400 each.

I know that I could make and sell a bunch, just to my fan base, but never really thought there would be a big market in the YoYo world itself.

I’ll give this some real thought in the coming weeks.

I notice that one is wider, and lighter than mine, is this desirable?  
I expect tomorrows revision to come in sub 68 grams, but there is room to lighten it up.

I might need a couple of guys with skill to test out some prototypes and help me tweak the design.

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#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/112 "2015-03-18T03:00:06Z")

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Some ideal specs, based on average with what people prefer, are:

55mm-59mm diameter  
43mm gap  
63-67grams

Note that the weight means nothing unless it’s distributed properly. More center weight gives you more float and more along the rims gives you more solid/stability. If you could get it right in the sweet spot that’d be fantastic.

Incredible work! ;D

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#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 3:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/113 "2015-03-18T03:07:52Z")

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I love lighter yoyos (60g-63g), and done right they’re just amazing. Lighter yoyos seem to be catching on from what i’ve seen. I find them a bit more fun and faster to play with. Heavier yoyos can kinda feel lifeless and uncooperative to play with if they’re not done just right.

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#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/114 "2015-03-18T03:18:32Z")

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If it’s titanium there will always be a collectors market interested

I’d agree that 60-66grams is the popular area to shoot for these days. Especially with larger diameters and wider bodies. Can’t forget the maxed out gap.

It all depends though on how limited they are because everyone wants something rare and the titanium market of yoyos is limited already.

I do think that no matter the design though a group of throwers on here would end up buying it since it’s just cool. A responsive titanium production throw is unique and could get some good interest. As long as it performs well people will buy it. Cool packaging always helps too 😃

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#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/115 "2015-03-18T03:30:30Z")

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> [@Fellhoelter](#):
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> Well, that definitely makes it worth thinking about!
> 
> Just looked up the Dazzler, $650 here at YoYoExpert.
> 
> Not surprised at the price, but am a little surprised there’s a market.
> 
> It’s definitely a beatable price too, as my initial estimate is $300 - $400 each.
> 
> I know that I could make and sell a bunch, just to my fan base, but never really thought there would be a big market in the YoYo world itself.
> 
> I’ll give this some real thought in the coming weeks.
> 
> I notice that one is wider, and lighter than mine, is this desirable?  
> I expect tomorrows revision to come in sub 68 grams, but there is room to lighten it up.
> 
> I might need a couple of guys with skill to test out some prototypes and help me tweak the design.

I think if you made it a little more wider it’d be great, also people usually prefer 67 grams or a bit less

If you need a tester, hit me up with a PM! I’d be happy to help test in some way, see how it feels from an objective point of view

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#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 3:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/116 "2015-03-18T03:32:34Z")

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Not sure if anyone mentioned it, but titanium yoyos can spark when you walk the dog with them 🙂

[www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpAhj4jVif0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpAhj4jVif0)

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#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/117 "2015-03-18T04:05:03Z")

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And zirconium would spark even more, but I doubt the weight could be brought down on the zirconium enough.  
It’s pretty heavy stuff.

Maybe some “spark” rings around the outside…

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I would love to help you test it out and tweak the design but unfortunately, I know almost nothing about what you can change to make a yoyo better :P. There’s some people here who would be awesome at telling you what to change if they got a chance to throw it.

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#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/119 "2015-03-18T04:58:47Z")

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I’ll tweak the design, and make a couple more tomorrow.

We’ll see what happens from there.

It’ll be a few weeks before I can get back to it after that.

My plan is to bring the wall closer in to the response, and shave it down to 62 - 66 grams.

I’ll probably flatten the wall a bit too making it more V shaped, and less organic.

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#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-i-made-my-first-yoyo/73375/120 "2015-03-18T05:12:27Z")

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> [@Fellhoelter](#):
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> I’ll tweak the design, and make a couple more tomorrow.
> 
> We’ll see what happens from there.
> 
> It’ll be a few weeks before I can get back to it after that.
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> My plan is to bring the wall closer in to the response, and shave it down to 62 - 66 grams.
> 
> I’ll probably flatten the wall a bit too making it more V shaped, and less organic.

Everything sounds good, but i’m a little concerned about the gap width, too narrow and it might cause some bloody knuckles xD

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