# So how about that stock market?
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**Created:** [January 30, 2021, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197 "2021-01-30T22:44:35Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2021, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/21 "2021-02-07T01:02:29Z")
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### Author:  [@TheHelveticaScenario](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheHelveticaScenario)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2021, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/22 "2021-02-07T11:04:32Z")
> [@YoyoGeezer](#):
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> Measuring a franchise success by the number of locations is misleading.
Obviously, but I don’t think anyone - other than you - actually mentioned the word “success” nor suggested ways to measure for it. _ **RABid** _ said "largest"with respect to fast food franchises. So, I ranked explicitly by total locations because a) it’s the most stable way to rank franchise “largeness” and b) someone else hilariously suggested that there were “very few” KFCs left (vs Popeyes). Statements like these simply cannot go unchallenged – this is the internet after all. 😆
> [@YoyoGeezer](#):
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> I would refer to revenue. McDonalds revenue is almost twice that of its nearest competitor.
Well, you _could_, but then Starbucks would be #1 in terms of annual revenue, not McDonalds as you seem to be implying. Regardless, picking any single metric never tells the whole story. Consider the following data…
**Starbucks** (~$26B revenue, 2019) $20B in sales, ~15,000 US locations = $1.3M sales per location
**McDonalds** (~$21B revenue, 2019) $38B in sales, ~14,000 US locations = $2.7M sales per location
**Chick-Fil-A** (~4B revenue, 2019) $10B in sales, ~ 2,400 US locations = $4.1M sales per location
[Just for fun… **Subway** $10B in sales, ~25,000 US locations = $400k sales per location]
So, who is “largest” depends on…
If you pick **revenue** , Starbucks wins.
If you pick **sales** , McDonalds wins.
If you pick **profitability** , Chick-Fil-A wins.
If you pick **locations** , Subway wins.
**More fun facts:** Chick-Fil-A is absolutely dwarfed by McDonald’s in terms of revenue and locations yet generates 65% more in sales per location, despite only being open 6 days a week and not being 24-hours.
## … And Lastly …
Not to stray too far off topic – it’s good we’re talking about fast food franchises because I have a feeling a lot of GME ~~_investors_~~ , ~~_stonk traders_~~ , _ **gamblers** _ got “taken behind the woodshed” and learned an expensive lesson about buying high and selling low last week and are probably looking for some reliable ways to offset some major stock trading losses. Fast food places are always hiring, franchising opportunities are available.
_“Nothing sedates rationality like large doses of effortless money”_ **- Warren Buffet**
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### Author:  [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2021, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/23 "2021-02-08T16:53:13Z")
Put my entire 401k in dogecoin you say???
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=000al7ru3ms)
> [@YoyoGeezer](#):
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> Measuring a franchise success by the number of locations is misleading. Subways has one of the least expensive franchises available and the startup costs are negligible compared to something like a McDonalds.
Not only that, but Subway franchising doesn’t have any clauses in their contracts in regards to territory like McDonald’s does, so one Subway can open up across the street from another, leeching the profits from one store. Obviously corporate doesn’t care since they get a piece of the pie either way, but it’s a big issue for Subway franchisees.
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### Author:  [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2021, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/25 "2021-02-10T22:06:32Z")
That’s a real solid return. Did you sell any yesterday when it hit $0.08?
Anyone in weed stocks? SNDL and OGI have been treating me very well this week.
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### Author:  [@rockstar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rockstar)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2021, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/26 "2021-02-10T22:21:22Z")
Sadly… some late-to-the-party types will loose their life this way…
Too many conspiracy theories…
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### Author:  [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2021, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/27 "2021-02-10T22:33:30Z")
Unfortunately so. Greed corrupts.
I read a story about a med student who took 40k of his med school loan money and put it into GME@300. He’s probably not doing too well.
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### Author:  [@8bitviet](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/8bitviet)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/28 "2021-02-10T23:38:37Z")
Going to hold; since initial investment was $8. I want to see Doge hit $1.
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/29 "2021-02-11T01:26:18Z")
Stick with the sensible advice: [pick a safe index fund and hold it](https://grow.acorns.com/warren-buffett-index-funds/).
That said, I did buy $10k worth of bitcoin last April and it quadrupled. I pulled most of it out into a real investment, e.g. the index funds. Don’t kid yourself – the crypto stuff is straight up gambling 🎲. As with any casino, don’t even step foot in the door unless you can safely afford to lose every dollar you entered the place with. Treat it exclusively as entertainment.
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### Author:  [@photogeek](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/photogeek)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2021, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/30 "2021-02-11T06:33:47Z")
> [@codinghorror](#):
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> Stick with the sensible advice: [pick a safe index fund and hold it](https://grow.acorns.com/warren-buffett-index-funds/)
> [@codinghorror](#):
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> Don’t kid yourself – the crypto stuff is straight up gambling
Best advice you’re gonna get on the topic.
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### Author:  [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/31 "2021-06-03T17:49:12Z")
> [@codinghorror](#):
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> Don’t kid yourself – the **stock market** is straight up gambling
Fixed this for you, given the absurd levels of manipulation.
Sure a 7-10% annual return on a low-risk index fund/ETF is fine. But I consider myself and idiot and my stock portfolio is still up 85% YTD.
Buffet infamously despises Bitcoin/crypto because it’s not regulated. I see that as a pro, not a con.
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### Author:  [@Biased\_Opinion](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Biased_Opinion)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/32 "2021-06-03T18:10:01Z")
I wish I found out about this thread earlier. Now the 2 things I spend all my money all can be found in the same place.
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### Author:  [@Biased\_Opinion](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Biased_Opinion)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/33 "2021-06-03T18:19:49Z")
My top 3 stocks rn are wtii (water technologies international) , currently sitting at 0.011. They make machines that produce clean drinking water out of the humidity in the air. EDR (Endeavor group holdings) , they have holdings with a lot of the MMA orgs like UFC, Bellator, One, etc. and now almost the Olympics. Currently sitting at 28.93. And last but not least PCRFY (Panasonic), they make all of Tesla’s batteries and signed a deal with Toyota to build a plant in Japan to produce batteries for about 500,000 EVs in 2022. Currently sitting at 11.43.
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### Author:  [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/34 "2021-06-03T18:30:12Z")
> [@Biased\_Opinion](#):
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> I wish I found out about this thread earlier. Now the 2 things I spend all my money all can be found in the same place.
:joy:
I usually get burned on pennies, but WTII sounds interesting.
Have you heard anything about Panasonic researching fluoride ion batteries? I’ve heard they may be a good candidate to replace lithium batteries, which would be huge as battery tech is currently what’s holding us back in a lot of sectors. And is that 500k number taking into account the semiconductor shortage? I’m in the auto industry and buying anything related to auto makes me nervous.
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### Author:  [@Biased\_Opinion](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Biased_Opinion)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/35 "2021-06-03T18:33:35Z")
> [@LinksLegionaire](#):
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> Have you heard anything about Panasonic researching fluoride ion batteries?
Very interesting, I will look into it. Thank you for this piece of information. 🙂
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### Author:  [@TheHelveticaScenario](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheHelveticaScenario)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2021, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/36 "2021-06-03T18:46:22Z")
> [@LinksLegionaire](#):
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> But I consider myself and idiot and my stock portfolio is still up 85% YTD.
The important question is how large is your portfolio? Percentages measured against tiny portfolios are kind of pointless and people always conveniently leave that part out. There’s a night and day difference doubling $500 versus $1MM.
As for people like Buffet and crypto, he’s an investor. He buys businesses based on the income generated by the business, dividends, intellectual property, and so forth from which a stock’s value/price can be determined. He avoids Bitcoin, and any crypto, simply because they don’t generate income, you can’t valuate them, and they’re fungible. As a holder, you’re merely hoping someone is willing to buy it for more than you paid …also known as “greater fool theory”. He has the same argument for gold, another non income producing asset.
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### Author:  [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2021, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/37 "2021-06-03T21:19:28Z")
> [@TheHelveticaScenario](#):
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> The important question is how large is your portfolio?
Fair question but I disagree with the premise. An 85% gain on $500 or $1MM is still an 85% gain. In any case, I’m playing around with about $15k. Not a huge amount by life-changing standards, but it’s a start.
Buffet also has a huge safety net in the form of “it’s too big to fail”. Berkshire made billions when Goldman Sachs was bailed out, which I don’t find to be very fair.
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### Author:  [@hobby\_master](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobby_master)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/38 "2021-06-03T21:42:17Z")
I believe in crypto as an asset. it goes hand in hand with web3.0.
its not going anywhere imo. the market will cleanse itself of non useful, pointless projects.
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### Author:  [@anon14765792](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon14765792)
#### Post date: [July 20, 2021, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/39 "2021-07-20T09:56:45Z")
The entire crypto market is crashing now ☠
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### Author:  [@hobby\_master](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobby_master)
#### Post date: [July 20, 2021, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/40 "2021-07-20T11:11:34Z")
It hurts, crashing on top of a crash. It just hurts. But…
Buy
That
Frickin
Dip
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### Author:  [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)
#### Post date: [July 20, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/so-how-about-that-stock-market/333197/41 "2021-07-20T18:22:27Z")
Which is to be expected. Hell, when BTC first hit 1k, it then crashed to 200 for TWO YEARS.
But I don’t trade crypto, I buy and hold. Which for me means that I’m still up bigly in crypto.
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