# Small (A bearing) versus large (C bearing) yoyo play **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [November 9, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872 "2018-11-09T20:28:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/1 "2018-11-09T20:28:39Z")
Continuing the discussion from [What did you get in the mail this week?](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-did-you-get-in-the-mail-this-week/47997/3422): > [@What did you get in the mail this week (2013-2018)](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-did-you-get-in-the-mail-this-week-2013-2018/47997/3422): > > Small bearing, very different in play. I agree with this sentiment, and I have a few small A bearing yo-yos too, but I was wondering if anyone wanted to further quantify this statement? Is it just because the C bearing is physically smaller in diameter and thus will spin faster, maybe bind tighter, etc? It’s probably a tiny bit lighter too in center weight? Also, what’s your favorite small A bearing yo-yo out there right now? I’m a big fan of the Confusion (though I play it responsive exclusively) and the Canary. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/2 "2018-11-09T21:43:08Z")
I believe size A bearings are better for lighter yoyos, due to their faster spin, so whatever the yoyo lacks in rim weight for long spin, can be slightly made up for. I may be wrong about this. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/3 "2018-11-09T21:49:31Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > Also, what’s your favorite small A bearing yo-yo out there right now? I’m a big fan of the Confusion I would absolutely love a Confusion GT. Does it come with thinner pads for unresponsive play? ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/4 "2018-11-09T21:50:44Z")
Yes! Both the Confusion and the GT are fantastic, and come with both the flush and thick response pads. I recommend them wholeheartedly. I personally prefer the Confusion, I have not really been able to fully warm up to the GT shape, but that’s on me. It feels great in hand and plays great. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/5 "2018-11-09T21:52:43Z")
I think that’s done it for me. I’ll buy one and just eat beans for a few days. Lol. ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/6 "2018-11-09T22:41:22Z")
> [@anon5341354](#): > > I believe size A bearings are better for lighter yoyos, due to their faster spin, so whatever the yoyo lacks in rim weight for long spin, can be slightly made up for. > > I may be wrong about this. I would say you’re pretty dead on with this. I agree at least. The Quail is ~61g, but it doesn’t feel as light as other yo-yos I’ve played with the same weight. It feels heavier (slightly) with a really powerful spin. I don’t need or want to throw it as hard if that makes sense. The most notable difference though with a size A bearing is the small gap. @codinghorror mentioned the Canary (size D bearing) which I would put in a different category since the gap is about the same as Size C bearings. You don’t need to play any differently on yo-yos with a size D bearing, whereas with Size A you need to be mindful of the smaller gap. I’ll be living that small bearing life for the next few days so I’ll have more to add. In the meantime I’m really enjoying the snappy low rpm regens and dialing in which tricks work best with the smaller bearing. ---
**Author:** ![MastarMash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mastarmash/32/34119_2.png) [@MastarMash](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MastarMash)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/7 "2018-11-10T00:33:44Z")
I love C size bearing, but agree that the appropriate bearing will accommodate any yoyo! ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/8 "2018-11-10T01:03:12Z")
Most of my hundreds of yo-yos are C bearing size. A few months ago I bought a Canary yoyo for About $60. Easily one of the best playing yo-yos I have… And at doesn’t have a C size bearing.- ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/9 "2018-11-10T01:12:24Z")
> [@YoYoExpertGarrett](#): > > The most notable difference though with a size A bearing is the small gap. @codinghorror mentioned the Canary (size D bearing) which I would put in a different category since the gap is about the same as Size C bearings. You don’t need to play any differently on yo-yos with a size D bearing, whereas with Size A you need to be mindful of the smaller gap. Ohhh my bad. So A is narrower gap and smaller in diameter, and D is wider gap but _also_ small in diameter? ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/10 "2018-11-10T01:14:37Z")
I would love use D bearings in my lighter unresponsives. I wonder if Onedrop would machine some D guts for me. ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/11 "2018-11-10T02:10:31Z")
> [@anon5341354](#): > > I would love use D bearings in my lighter unresponsives. I wonder if Onedrop would machine some D guts for me. What do you need? I can cut some spacers for you. Just need the specs. 🤓 ---
**Author:** ![MastarMash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mastarmash/32/34119_2.png) [@MastarMash](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MastarMash)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/12 "2018-11-10T02:11:19Z")
Call the Doctor! ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/13 "2018-11-10T02:13:08Z")
I basically need the same sized disk as the Cabal guts, but the bearing seat and response to suit a D. I have no idea of the specs and I’m not sure I can get an accuate enough measurement with my calipers. ---
**Author:** ![MastarMash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mastarmash/32/34119_2.png) [@MastarMash](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MastarMash)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/14 "2018-11-10T02:15:00Z")
Time for another weekender! Look out weekend! ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/15 "2018-11-10T03:03:47Z")
> [@anon5341354](#): > > I basically need the same sized disk as the Cabal guts, but the bearing seat and response to suit a D. I have no idea of the specs and I’m not sure I can get an accuate enough measurement with my calipers. D would be cool, but what I’d love to try is a A bearing responsive wood yo-yo! If the doctor can get those into your hands, consider one sold! I don’t know what the ideal gap would be, but for me it would be wide enough to do some old school string trick, and narrow enough to lube it to be nice and responsive. The Deep State is 3.3mm and I love that gap. Not sure if the A bearing would react the same with that gap, but I bet something close would do. I read that the Tom Kuhn bearing yo-yos were/are 3.2-4.2mm. That’s larger than I thought… Plus, that’s even smaller than A size? Anyway, if you figure it out, I’ll buy one. ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/16 "2018-11-10T03:19:54Z")
> [@anon5341354](#): > > I basically need the same sized disk as the Cabal guts, but the bearing seat and response to suit a D. I have no idea of the specs and I’m not sure I can get an accuate enough measurement with my calipers. I would know ‘that stuff’.😳 Can do. Do you know if the Cabal spacers are brass or aluminum? I have a Cabal… but it is 23 miles away at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/17 "2018-11-10T03:33:49Z")
I do like the Confusion and Confusion GT, but I haven’t quite found the love for them yet. I like the Alley Cat 650b, a lot more than either of them. I keep thinking I should pull out some of my old 90’s yo-yos, fix them up, and see how I like them for responsive play after all this time. Until then, I’d say the Alley Cat is my favorite for responsive with the A bearing. I would have thought for sure my favorite would have an A bearing, but the Deep State edges out the Alley Cat for me. > [@YoYoExpertGarrett](#): > > I would say you’re pretty dead on with this. I agree at least. The Quail is ~61g, but it doesn’t feel as light as other yo-yos I’ve played with the same weight. It feels heavier (slightly) with a really powerful spin. I don’t need or want to throw it as hard if that makes sense. The Quail is my favorite A bearing yo-yo! Especially for unresponsive. When I first got it, I found it rather frustrating, and thought that I’m probably just not good enough to get the joy out of it. Charles and Jensen are able to take what the Quail has to offer and play to it’s strengths. My first impression was that it would maybe be a good trainer for me, a yo-yo to help clean up my technique, but not so much enjoy. However, I have continued to play with it, and have come to really love it. Even with my relatively meager skills, I have found myself adjusting my play to the Quail. There is something so satisfying about the way it binds, and spins. So glad I bought it! ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/18 "2018-11-10T03:41:01Z")
> [@yoyodoc](#): > > Can do. Do you know if the Cabal spacers are brass or aluminum? They are aluminum. ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 3:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/19 "2018-11-10T03:43:51Z")
Glen, I think I might have some Buzzon A bearing SPRs somewhere. Maybe you could make me something with those? ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872/20 "2018-11-10T04:21:41Z")
I believe they are 7075 aluminum. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/small-a-bearing-versus-large-c-bearing-yoyo-play/294872.md?page=2)