# Sleeper Help

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sleeper-help/17519
**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sleeper-help/17519 "2010-08-04T17:29:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author: ![ImNoYoYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/imnoyoyo/32/624_2.png) [@ImNoYoYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ImNoYoYo)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sleeper-help/17519/1 "2010-08-04T17:29:25Z")

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Well, I just started Yo-Yoing today (Wednesday, August 4th)  
I was learning to do the sleeper with my YYJ Kickside, and when i tried to pull it back up, it wouldn’t, any help?

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### Author: ![Vivo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vivo/32/419_2.png) [@Vivo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Vivo)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sleeper-help/17519/2 "2010-08-04T17:40:49Z")

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Learn how to bind.&nbsp; 🙂

> **[YoYoExpert.com - Intermediate - Bind Returns](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/030-intermediate-bind-returns.php)**
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> Learn how to return an unresponsive yo-yo using a bind return from the YoYoExpert.

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### Author: ![ImNoYoYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/imnoyoyo/32/624_2.png) [@ImNoYoYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ImNoYoYo)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sleeper-help/17519/3 "2010-08-04T17:46:07Z")

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Thank you, looks confusing…

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### Author: ![yoyonut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyonut/32/611_2.png) [@yoyonut](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyonut)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sleeper-help/17519/4 "2010-08-05T04:07:32Z")

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ya u will need to learn to bind if you want to do more intermediate tricks. But if you are a beginner, get a more responsive yoyo

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### Author: ![Fatstrings](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Fatstrings](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Fatstrings)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sleeper-help/17519/5 "2010-08-05T04:17:50Z")

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Pay attention to the direction the yoyo is spinning when you throw it, you need to make sure you pull your looped string against the spin. You’ll get the hang of it.

this might also help: [A Guide to Binding - Yo-Yo Tricks - YoYoExpert](http://yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,6880.0.html)

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### Author: ![crazyoyow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@crazyoyow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/crazyoyow)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sleeper-help/17519/6 "2010-08-05T04:20:44Z")

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put some yoyojam THICK LUBE on the bearing. you can buy it on this site…

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### Author: ![ImNoYoYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/imnoyoyo/32/624_2.png) [@ImNoYoYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ImNoYoYo)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sleeper-help/17519/7 "2010-08-05T15:11:43Z")

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Thank you, also sometimes when I try and throw a really strong sleeper, I don’t even jerk it and it comes back up. I have the hang of binding, so I want to find a way to stop the Yo-Yo from coming back to my hand when I don’t jerk it, it hurts when it smashes into my hand!

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### Author: ![samyoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samyoyos/32/605_2.png) [@samyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/samyoyos)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2010, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sleeper-help/17519/8 "2010-08-05T15:19:41Z")

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binding is easiest in the braintwister mount once you get in it pull the finger with the loop like straight forward and downward and then let go of the loop finger.

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### Author: ![Vivo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vivo/32/419_2.png) [@Vivo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Vivo)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sleeper-help/17519/9 "2010-08-05T17:11:08Z")

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> [@ImNoYoYo](#):
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> Thank you, also sometimes when I try and throw a really strong sleeper, I don’t even jerk it and it comes back up. I have the hang of binding, so I want to find a way to stop the Yo-Yo from coming back to my hand when I don’t jerk it, it hurts when it smashes into my hand!

So basically, you want the yoyo unresponsive, right?

Clean the bearing:

> **[How to Clean Your YoYo Bearing](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,871.0.html)**
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> How to Clean Your YoYo Bearing! ⚠ WARNING: THE CHEMICALS USED IN THIS PROCESS ARE DANGEROUS. EXPOSURE HAS BEEN LINKED TO SERIOUS HEALTH PROBLEMS. USE THEM ONLY OUTDOORS OR IN A WELL VENTILATED AREA. THESE CHEMICALS ARE HIGHLY FLAMMABLE. IF YOU...

Then play with your yoyo for a week and the bearing will break in.

The yoyo will not be completely unresponsive though, but it will not come back to your hand with a slight tug.  
🙂

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### Author: ![jtman562](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jtman562/32/285_2.png) [@jtman562](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jtman562)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sleeper-help/17519/10 "2010-08-05T17:17:48Z")

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> [@Vivo](#):
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> > [@ImNoYoYo](#):
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> > Thank you, also sometimes when I try and throw a really strong sleeper, I don’t even jerk it and it comes back up. I have the hang of binding, so I want to find a way to stop the Yo-Yo from coming back to my hand when I don’t jerk it, it hurts when it smashes into my hand!
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> So basically, you want the yoyo unresponsive, right?
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> Clean the bearing:  
> [How to Clean Your YoYo Bearing - Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance - YoYoExpert](http://yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,871.0.html)
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> The kickside has an ajustable gap. He could also make sure the gap is as wide as it goes.
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> Then play with your yoyo for a week and the bearing will break in.
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> The yoyo will not be completely unresponsive though, but it will not come back to your hand with a slight tug.  
> 🙂

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### Author: ![ApocalypticYo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@ApocalypticYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ApocalypticYo)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sleeper-help/17519/11 "2010-08-05T17:38:46Z")

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I think the reason that it sometimes just comes up right away is that when you bind you put too much string in the gap and a knot-like thing forms. You’re either putting too much string in the gap or you’re binding the wrong direction.  
If you throw a sleeper then don’t bind from a brain twister mount. WHen you’re in the brain twister mount the loop is behind the string. You want to make the loop be in front of the string. When you do the brain twister mount you put the string into the gap. To make the loop be in front of the string then when you put the string into the gap put the string in from the back of the yoyo.

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### Author: ![ImNoYoYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/imnoyoyo/32/624_2.png) [@ImNoYoYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ImNoYoYo)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sleeper-help/17519/12 "2010-08-05T22:43:56Z")

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Thank you all for the wonderful help 😃  
~Locking this
