# Six-Year History of the Shutter! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [August 29, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559 "2019-08-29T22:23:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/1 "2019-08-29T22:23:12Z")
Lovely video by @Gentry_Stein on the history of the Shutter with each model released over the years!! [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/5/f/95f87012e384c266fc14904bc2907745fd70c29e.jpeg "Happy Birthday Shutter!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teRMwsa4poQ) Sounds like a small Shutter promotion is about to go live here as well. ---
**Author:** ![AndreBoulay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andreboulay/32/69662_2.png) [@AndreBoulay](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AndreBoulay)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/2 "2019-08-29T22:25:14Z")
Yes! šŸ˜Š > [@Shutter Birthday Bundle - Celebrating Six Years Old!](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/shutter-birthday-bundle-celebrating-six-years-old/307560): > > Happy Birthday Shutter! The amazing @Gentry_Stein YoYoFactory Shutter turns six years old today! To celebrate we have a Birthday Bundle page where you can snag a new Shutter or Shutter Wide Angle and get a free 2 compartment yoyo case AND a SnapShot (responsive Gentry Signature (SpinStar) yoyo!) Either have fun throwing some classic responsive tricks or perhaps you have someone in mind to pass it on to and maybe you can help create that next World YoYā€¦ > **[YoYoExpert - Yo-Yo Store - Buy & Shop Modern Yo-Yos!](https://yoyoexpert.com/)** > > At YoYoExpert we deliver the best yoyo shopping experience and an amazing selection you can't find anywhere else. Shop YoYoFactory, Duncan, Yomega & many more! ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/3 "2019-08-29T22:26:18Z")
> [@Yyf Shutter](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-shutter/300140/6): > > Can anyone actually _document_ the changes in Shutter design from 2013 to today? I do not mean Wide Angle, I mean the regular Shutter? Supposedly itā€™s been ā€œtweakedā€ through the years but I have never ever seen a definitive source on that This video is the answer to that ā†‘ ā†‘ ā†‘ Iā€™ve said it before, Iā€™ll say it again: Shutter is arguably the only undisputed ā€œall time classicā€ yo-yo design from the modern era of 2013 onward. ---
**Author:** ![feryuweryu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/feryuweryu/32/42092_2.png) [@feryuweryu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/feryuweryu)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/4 "2019-08-29T22:56:02Z")
ā€œThis one feels super good, cuz now it got the center-trac in itā€ ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/5 "2019-08-29T23:06:53Z")
Definitely not the future: _flat bearings_. I also personally like the purity of the Shutter design, itā€™s been quite stable other than tweaks (and the wide angle) since 2013. Compare with the utter explosion šŸ’„ of radically different Edge modelsā€¦ and then the Edge is _kiiiiind_ of a copy of the Kuntosh, isnā€™t it? :thinking: And IMNSHO the Shutter has a very, very good shape, a nearly-ideal hybrid of aspects of V, H, O, W. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/6 "2019-08-29T23:39:17Z")
I think if we were to look back at 2013 and name the yoyos from that year which have had the greatest impact on yoyoing, it would have to be the Shutter and the Draupnir. Iā€™m a little annoyed that I _just_ bought a WA Shutter and missed out on this new promotion. This kind of thing has happened to me before. Oh well. _sigh_ ---
**Author:** ![yyfben2.deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/7 "2019-08-29T23:40:24Z")
Sure. If the protostar never existed. ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/8 "2019-08-30T01:22:42Z")
I agree with everything youā€™ve said in this thread so much that it hurts ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/9 "2019-08-30T01:37:49Z")
> [@yyfben2.deactivated](#): > > If the protostar never existed. Do you mean the original, _original_ Edge? That was more of a general W shape, yeah. ---
**Author:** ![yyfben2.deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/10 "2019-08-30T02:09:34Z")
Is the kuntosh W shape? Whatā€™s the earliest yoyo the term W can apply to? ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/11 "2019-08-30T02:29:42Z")
I mean like the protostar, less sharp edges. I personally like the sharp edges! Hereā€™s protostar on the left, followed by various Edge models. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/e/d/9ed3ac7f94ab7672b4422109b0c61f851720170e.jpeg) Putting them side by side, I guess itā€™s true that the mono Edge retained that un-sharp W of the OG bimetal Edge, but Iā€™d say Edge Beyond, Monster Edge, Plastic Edge, and Delrin Edge all went with sharp W ā€“ a clear sense of evolution, to the point that **Edge _as a series_, in my mind, is all about that ~~bass~~ sharp edged W.** I think poly edge also is a copy of the OG Edge, so less-sharp W. I grabbed two from my collection and took this pic to illustrate the difference. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/3/3/2333d84307c010a2d684701f9e8300905cdfac74.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![yyfben2.deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/12 "2019-08-30T03:02:57Z")
Appreciate such an information laden post! I see the same design philosophy running through all of them. protostar ran a different direction to the curves that preceded it. Evan ran further with it and gave them his own flair I canā€™t speak of where he started his process or got his inspiration or if it was someone else who ran with this same design philosophy but I know where he wanted to put the weight and the best way to put weight in a yoyo is in its shape. If you look at the point Edge is weighted in steel and expand that in a lighter material it squares up pretty quick. That last photo maybe shows it off the best! The steel hides the mass making a sleeker faster yoyo ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/13 "2019-08-30T03:04:50Z")
I agree that the Edges are all basically W shapes, just like the KĆ¼ntosh and the ProtoStar (and the RockStar and the NorthStar and the OneStar and theā€¦). However, those never stray into the \>= 46mm wide territory that all of Evanā€™s yoyos do. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/14 "2019-08-30T04:19:26Z")
Yeah itā€™s a W, nobody said otherwise. Kuntosh is also a W Still, two observations based on the data above 1. Edge is getting more Kuntosh-y (sharp edged W) over time, just check out the pics above ā†‘ ā†‘ 2. **The ā€œdesign languageā€ of the Shutter is much more consistent over time.** Which is why I brought this up in the first place. Edge canā€™t seem to decide if it is a Kuntosh-y sharp W or a traditional softer W Not the first time this has come up eitherā€¦ > [@Edge beyond](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/edge-beyond/292697/59): > > To me, this plays kinda like what I thought it would ā€¦ a bimetal Kuntosh [IMG\_6932] [IMG\_6931] It is a tad smaller in diameter than the Kuntosh; about the same in width. And because it has the titanium axle and no side effects system (obviously) it has significantly less center weight. Overall I expected to like it a lot, because I love the Kuntosh, and I ended up liking it even more than I thought I would! So essentially the Beyond is Kuntosh Exxxxxxtreeeeeeeeme, with all the weight on the ā€¦ For the record I like sharp W a lot, so the idea that the Edge is fundamentally a sharp W design, is _just fine_ by me. The OG Edge is the anomaly here! ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/15 "2019-08-30T04:43:03Z")
:thinking: Iā€™ve never even touched a shutter. Iā€™ve been curious about them, I think Iā€™d go for a regular over a wa. Eventually, that is. ---
**Author:** ![beeebon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/beeebon/32/30672_2.png) [@beeebon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/beeebon)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/16 "2019-08-30T06:27:20Z")
No harm in giving one a go if you pick one up cheap. I got one for Ā£18 a while back and played with it for a while then sold it. I canā€™t say I have missed it at all. ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/17 "2019-08-31T21:40:44Z")
I just got a Wide Angle and I thought Iā€™d be turned off by the width. I donā€™t even really notice it except when Iā€™m benefited by it. I totally understand the trend of wide yo-yos from a performance perspective now. The two previous wider yo-yos I had (not quite as wide as the WA, 46.4 and 47.25 mm wide) didnā€™t do it for me and made me think I didnā€™t like anything over 46. The inner cut of the Shutter eliminated the clunkiness of the width for me and just gives an insane catch zone. ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/18 "2019-08-31T21:43:04Z")
What were the other 2 yos? ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/19 "2019-08-31T21:59:22Z")
Selene and Statement. The Statement was worse than the Selene in this regard even though itā€™s not as wide. I loved the way the Statement felt and how it played for more movement based stuff that didnā€™t require a lot of manipulation around string, but something about that bell shape with wider rims made it less intuitive to me for denser stuff. Thatā€™s more on me than the yo-yo though, Iā€™m really used to organicish v shapes and didnā€™t take the time to adjust to a different shape. I just like my Breeze so much for both focused and relaxed play that I didnā€™t see a need for the Statement in my collection. Great yo-yo though. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559/20 "2019-08-31T22:13:43Z")
You make me want a breeze so bad, because we share the issues I have with the Statement, and they seem to the be resolved in the breeze. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/six-year-history-of-the-shutter/307559.md?page=2)