# Shutter VS. Horizon **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [August 11, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/shutter-vs-horizon/68516 "2014-08-11T04:06:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Philip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Philip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Philip)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/shutter-vs-horizon/68516/21 "2014-08-11T13:57:10Z")
> [@nolangherity](#): > > YYE is currently sold out of center trac bearings, which makes getting a yoyo with one installed a bit more crucial… You could get a concave or a yoyorecreation DS bearing ---
**Author:** ![BenM36](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/benm36/32/646268_2.png) [@BenM36](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BenM36)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/shutter-vs-horizon/68516/22 "2014-08-11T14:28:54Z")
> [@YoCyanightYo](#): > > I can’t find one of the BAZILLION freakin YYF Multitools I’ve bought over the years, and I tried a 1/4 drill bit which was reccommended but it didn’t fit… Personally I’d just take a vise grip and rip off the bearing. The bearing will get destroyed but at least you’ll get it off. I had to do that to my 33 1/3 and its bearing seat, combined with the type of bearing would not budge with any other method ---
**Author:** ![nolangherity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d6d6ee/32.png) [@nolangherity](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nolangherity)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/shutter-vs-horizon/68516/23 "2014-08-12T03:46:49Z")
well i just bought a yye red shutter with the center trac and 100 pack of yye polyester strings. thanks for the opinions everyone, im sure sooner than later ill own all the throws mentioned in this thread, but it all has to start with one. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/shutter-vs-horizon/68516.md?page=1)