# Should your next yo-yo be a spin top?
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [April 3, 2025, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378 "2025-04-03T22:59:39Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Kalic00](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kalic00)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2025, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/61 "2025-04-08T19:38:15Z")
Have you looked into 0a at all? I have a feeling you might like modern responsive yoyo play!
Spin tops are cool too though, not trying to push you away from that
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### Author:  [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2025, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/62 "2025-04-08T19:57:30Z")
Well f. I never wanted to make string until you showed me a novel jig I could print…
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### Author:  [@MinerJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MinerJ)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2025, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/63 "2025-04-08T20:07:32Z")
Hah! I had the exact same thought when I saw those pics this morning…
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### Author:  [@SlacKing](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlacKing)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/64 "2025-04-08T20:27:02Z")
I’ve looked at that a bit as well. I’ve only seen a few 0A tricks that stuck out to me, but I should give it a proper go. The simpler, the better sometimes.
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### Author:  [@DaneMartin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DaneMartin)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2025, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/65 "2025-04-09T03:35:14Z")
I’m certainly no expert, and I really glossed over precession principles here, but I kinda like making videos and / or helping people. So here’s some tilt correction - compensation thoughts and ideas.
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELlXA6VVGFg)
Forgot to mention, the string used in this video is longer than what a Star would come with. So we’re essentially troubleshooting a “long string symptom”.
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### Author:  [@kevinm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kevinm)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2025, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/66 "2025-04-09T11:41:43Z")
Good explanation, great tutorial.
It’s the same idea for short string, which is often the case with new inexpensive tops, but the direction you tilt the top would be away from your body.
Nice left handed throws snuck in there!
A helpful thing to know about string length is that once you figure out the proper length for your top, note how high the wind goes. If you swap string to thinner or thicker, the number of winds you need are different, but you need to wind it to the same point on the top body.
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### Author:  [@mable](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mable)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2025, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/67 "2025-04-09T12:30:53Z")
It’s really interesting to see how much nuance goes into throwing trompo style tops. Honestly not wanting to deal with figuring out all of the specific throw mechanics is a big reason why I gravitated towards komas instead. I throw komas with any string length/thickness and don’t have to adjust or think much of it beyond how the string interacts with the axle while spinning.
I really need to get another trompo at some point because I don’t have my old one any more. Messing with bearing tips seems interesting, and I’m not nearly good enough to justify the massive price tag of a bearing koma.
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### Author:  [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2025, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/68 "2025-04-09T13:27:33Z")
I have made a spin tops channel in the YYBC Discord in case folks are interested. You don’t have to be a member to use our Discord.
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### Author:  [@kevinm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kevinm)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2025, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/69 "2025-04-09T13:37:04Z")
Komas certainly have their own set of unique challenges, but yes, there are lots of nuances with regular tops. The string is so important, it can really make a top handle great or be unplayable, where the koma tops are ways more forgiving to diff strings.
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### Author:  [@DaneMartin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DaneMartin)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2025, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/70 "2025-04-09T14:44:38Z")
> [@kevinm](#):
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> Nice left handed throws snuck in there!
Maybe you’ll enjoy this then….
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb8Fi0GGbTU)
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### Author:  [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2025, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/71 "2025-04-09T23:16:42Z")
Okay. So I was given two strings with this spin top. One was labeled “better string.” I decided to try the better string today rather than the factory one. I realized it was a much shorter length. I believe that had a lot to do with it, and I am a dummy for not trying the better one first
Again, one expletive near the end
Edit: The kids are intrigued and trying now. Spin tips are cool
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### Author:  [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2025, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/72 "2025-04-10T00:01:46Z")
Major success, ending the night on a high note!
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### Author:  [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/73 "2025-04-10T01:41:18Z")
Dane, this was super informative. I am just now watching it.
You may have posted something before, if so please link me at your leisure, but I am using the plastic ring thing when winding the top, and I’d like to know how to do so without it, along with a proper wind (how tight, average string length in number of winds, etc ..)
I appreciate your willingness to help us
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### Author:  [@DaneMartin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DaneMartin)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2025, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/74 "2025-04-10T02:52:15Z")
I reckon I threw in a little sarcasm lol. That’s my bad. But the lock tension I mention is the tightest part. Doesn’t need to be crazy. But give it a good pull!
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### Author:  [@kevinm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kevinm)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2025, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/75 "2025-04-10T03:17:20Z")
Wow that was fast!
It took me longer than that to take some stills🤣
Yeah agreed, the tension is important, and you have to start from the first wrap over the knot, because the string tension is all that keeps it from just slipping out.
Most commercial tops have a visual clue as to how far up to wrap. It’s not the number of wraps, it’s where the string goes up to on the body of the top. With the Short Circuit, it’s basically up to the tabs on the sides.
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### Author:  [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2025, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/76 "2025-04-10T14:16:45Z")
Yeah, not sure what I am doing but I am gonna stick to using the ring for now. When not using it, I only get a tight spin 1 out of ten throws. The other 9 feel like I am literally just chucking it at the ground
Maybe I need to make a second knot on top of the first so it is snugger
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### Author:  [@kevinm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kevinm)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2025, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/77 "2025-04-10T14:42:52Z")
There’s nothing wrong with using a ring, there are even some trick elements you can do with them. The thing is, you just started, it takes a lot of reps.
I have messed around with tops for years, and at times I have practiced a bunch and made not a lot of progress, almost convincing myself I couldn’t get past the most basic tricks.
The thing I found is that the learning curve is unpredictable, but rewarding, if you keep at it. It takes a lot of practice.
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### Author:  [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2025, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/78 "2025-04-10T14:45:50Z")
I have been enjoying it through the frustration, and thank you for the encouragement.
I get so frustrated and then one lands perfect and bam, frustration fades. I was curious what the consensus learning curve is, glad it’s not an overnight and you should have it down consensus lol
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### Author:  [@kevinm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kevinm)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2025, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/79 "2025-04-10T18:27:30Z")
Not sure why it would make any diff ring or loop?? My guess would be you pull harder against the ring when you are winding, and therefore get a better wrap and release. The way to keep the same tension with a loop is to push down with your thumb and really take out the slack so you can still wrap tight like @danemartin explained.
The other issue you may be having could be that you are not keeping your hand straight, and your wrist in line with your arm
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### Author:  [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2025, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-your-next-yo-yo-be-a-spin-top/422378/80 "2025-04-10T19:01:03Z")
Good deal, I will try those steps :heart:
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