# Should I get Dark Magic or X-ConVict? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [March 16, 2010, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-get-dark-magic-or-x-convict/12418 "2010-03-16T00:45:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![X\_MercySniper\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/df705f/32.png) [@X\_MercySniper\_X](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/X_MercySniper_X)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2010, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-get-dark-magic-or-x-convict/12418/1 "2010-03-16T00:45:41Z")
Should I get Dark Magic or X-ConVict?[size=10pt][/size] ---
**Author:** ![ape7566](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a4c791/32.png) [@ape7566](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ape7566)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2010, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-get-dark-magic-or-x-convict/12418/2 "2010-03-16T01:32:44Z")
Don’t you all ready have a Dark Magic? It is your favorite yo-yo ??? What size of yo-yo are you wanting the DM is a larger yo-yo the X-con is a medium sized yo-yo. We need more info on what you want. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_rocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Johnny\_rocks](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Johnny_rocks)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2010, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-get-dark-magic-or-x-convict/12418/3 "2010-03-17T00:02:31Z")
1.DM better thumb grinds 2.DM longer sleep time 3.DM not as good as the X-convict at normal grinds though 4.X-convict is good for the more flashy kinds of tricks, where as DM is good for the really complicated string tricks (ladder escape, white Buddha, and whut, black hops, superman,) 5.X-convict is the perfect yoyo for JD’s signature x stalls hope it helps! :wink: :wink: :wink: ---
**Author:** ![pickle24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pickle24/32/483_2.png) [@pickle24](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pickle24)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-get-dark-magic-or-x-convict/12418/4 "2010-03-18T15:12:12Z")
Well, I’d say go with the darkmagic. You listed it as your favorite yoyo. Plus the darkmagic is a more general yoyo wereas the X-con is a more personal yoyo (meaning not as many people will like it but it may be better for those who do) ---
**Author:** ![YoYoJordan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojordan/32/123867_2.png) [@YoYoJordan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoJordan)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-get-dark-magic-or-x-convict/12418/5 "2010-03-26T04:15:55Z")
Both are good. The like the x con better though… ---
**Author:** ![drinksprite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drinksprite/32/442_2.png) [@drinksprite](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/drinksprite)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-get-dark-magic-or-x-convict/12418/6 "2010-03-26T08:54:48Z")
I would say X-Convict. The hybrid response on the Dark Magic is really annoying for me cuz i think it makes it too responsive, and it doesn’t grind that well, except for thumb grinds. The X-Convict looks cooler too, especially the orange homeslice edition (if you can find that anywhere let me know!). Be careful with the adjustable gaps both those yoyos because if you over tighten it will mess up the adjustable gap and you are left with having to tighten the yoyo all the way resulting with a small gap! ---
**Author:** ![Pheenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pheenix/32/65_2.png) [@Pheenix](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pheenix)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-get-dark-magic-or-x-convict/12418/7 "2010-03-26T11:24:11Z")
Hybrid response is no fun. You can just silicone the X-ConVict. I herd about this New Breed too. There might be other yoyos in near Atmosphere Addment: I seem to get worse at this everyday :o :o :o ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-get-dark-magic-or-x-convict/12418/8 "2010-03-26T13:33:42Z")
Haha Jonas. > [@LOCATION](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/location/1193/25): > > 1.DM better thumb grinds > 2.DM longer sleep time > 3.DM not as good as the X-convict at normal grinds though > 4.X-convict is good for the more flashy kinds of tricks, where as DM is good for the really complicated string tricks (ladder escape, white Buddha, and whut, black hops, superman,) > 5.X-convict is the perfect yoyo for JD’s signature x stalls > hope it helps! :wink: :wink: :wink: Why? According to who? ---
**Author:** ![Yummy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yummy/32/14065_2.png) [@Yummy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yummy)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-get-dark-magic-or-x-convict/12418/9 "2010-03-26T13:49:48Z")
The answer to the question about which you should get is yes. ---
**Author:** ![Nmaster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nmaster/32/345_2.png) [@Nmaster](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nmaster)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-get-dark-magic-or-x-convict/12418/10 "2010-03-31T02:35:40Z")
pick any that looks good to you And by the way Yoyojordan, your sig is too big, resize it ---
**Author:** ![noyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/noyo/32/441_2.png) [@noyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/noyo)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-get-dark-magic-or-x-convict/12418/11 "2010-03-31T03:52:32Z")
Both yoyos play very well as do the other metal rimmed yoyo jams, watch some videos with the yoyos and see which one looks like it would fit your style the best. ---
**Author:** ![broyo13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/broyo13/32/432_2.png) [@broyo13](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/broyo13)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-get-dark-magic-or-x-convict/12418/12 "2010-04-01T00:53:52Z")
My opinion, Dark Magic. Although I would recommend a New Bread or a Protostar over both of them. ---
**Author:** ![YoYoJordan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojordan/32/123867_2.png) [@YoYoJordan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoJordan)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-get-dark-magic-or-x-convict/12418/13 "2010-04-01T01:13:29Z")
Both good. DM: Good thumb grinds and a little smaller for speed X-Con: Good for arm grinds, longer sleep times ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-get-dark-magic-or-x-convict/12418/14 "2010-04-01T01:48:35Z")
> [@YoYoJordan](#): > > Both good. > DM: Good thumb grinds and a little smaller for speed > > X-Con: Good for arm grinds, longer sleep times Thanks, but they can sleep equally long with a good throw.