# Should I buy PHENOMizm or something else? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [November 11, 2010, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-phenomizm-or-something-else/20811 "2010-11-11T07:34:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kreeschun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a4c791/32.png) [@kreeschun](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kreeschun)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-phenomizm-or-something-else/20811/1 "2010-11-11T07:34:58Z")
im looking to buy a nice yyj or yyf yoyo in the $50-$80 range. the only real 1A yoyo i have purchased is the yyj atmosphere. its small, wide, and heavy on the rims. now im looking for a yoyo that is more “average” sized, lighter (around 65g) and more center weighted. it has to be good for speed, grinds, and horizontals. i am considering the phenomizm, but i doubt it’s good for grinds cuz it aint full metal. i dont want the phenom cuz of its price. so, i am lookin for a metal yoyo that is closest to the phenom. i prefer yyj and yyf, but i am open for any consideration. its kind of like if hiroyuki suzuki were to use a more modestly priced metal yoyo, what would he use? ---
**Author:** ![djbcide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/djbcide/32/638_2.png) [@djbcide](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/djbcide)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-phenomizm-or-something-else/20811/2 "2010-11-11T08:34:56Z")
Well I can’t say exactly how it plays since I’ve never used one, the YYJ Speeder is his old signature yoyo, and it’s 65 grams exactly, and is slightly bigger then the atmosphere. ---
**Author:** ![vicman7usa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7993a0/32.png) [@vicman7usa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vicman7usa)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-phenomizm-or-something-else/20811/3 "2010-11-11T11:36:59Z")
try the YYJ SFX first b4 you move on to the PHENOMizm B/C their generaly the same shape the SFX is just Slightly smaller but it has a less of a wing shape but the PHENOMizm has a WIDER wing shape so final thoughts PHENOMizm - $60 - WIDE wing shape - MORE flair YYJ SXF - $40 -Less wing shaped - kinda curved hope this helps ---
**Author:** ![fady](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fady/32/303_2.png) [@fady](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fady)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-phenomizm-or-something-else/20811/4 "2010-11-11T11:47:26Z")
> [@vicman7usa](#): > > try the YYJ SFX first b4 you move on to the PHENOMizm B/C their generaly the same shape > the SFX is just Slightly smaller but it has a less of a wing shape > but the PHENOMizm has a WIDER wing shape > so final thoughts > PHENOMizm - $60 - WIDE wing shape - MORE flair > YYJ SXF - $40 -Less wing shaped - kinda curved > hope this helps but the plastic of the phenomizm is not as that of the SFX + he can get the phenomizm and play with the thin bearing if he cant bind also if he like it he had saved then 40 $ :wink: ---
**Author:** ![kreeschun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a4c791/32.png) [@kreeschun](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kreeschun)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-phenomizm-or-something-else/20811/5 "2010-11-11T18:55:38Z")
> [@vicman7usa](#): > > try the YYJ SFX first b4 you move on to the PHENOMizm B/C their generaly the same shape > the SFX is just Slightly smaller but it has a less of a wing shape > but the PHENOMizm has a WIDER wing shape > so final thoughts > PHENOMizm - $60 - WIDE wing shape - MORE flair > YYJ SXF - $40 -Less wing shaped - kinda curved > hope this helps Yeah, i have tried the SFX. it feels pretty nice. i want a yoyo that feels like the SFX or the phenomizm, but with full metal at price $50-$80 (if one exists like that). if i cant find a yoyo like the phenomizm, but with good grinds, i am happy to settle with the phenomizm. ---
**Author:** ![Ohemgee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e36b37/32.png) [@Ohemgee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ohemgee)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-phenomizm-or-something-else/20811/6 "2010-11-11T18:58:51Z")
Just because it has plastic doesnt mean it wont grind good, have you seen Andre with his DM i can barely do his grinds with my Genesis.Its practice. just pick something, it will be great. ---
**Author:** ![CodyJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@CodyJam](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CodyJam)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-phenomizm-or-something-else/20811/7 "2010-11-11T19:06:22Z")
Iv tried a Phenomizm, Its not bad for grinds at all. The Phenomizm, in my opinon, beats almost all Yoyofactory yoyos below 80. I would reccomend a Phenomizm. It’s Amazing, especially for the Price. And its not even that bad for grinds. It also sleeps Forever! (Not littlerally Forever, but a REALLY Long Time. lol) ---
**Author:** ![kreeschun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a4c791/32.png) [@kreeschun](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kreeschun)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-phenomizm-or-something-else/20811/8 "2010-11-11T21:16:47Z")
> [@CodyJam](#): > > Iv tried a Phenomizm, Its not bad for grinds at all. > The Phenomizm, in my opinon, beats almost all Yoyofactory yoyos below 80. > I would reccomend a Phenomizm. It’s Amazing, especially for the Price. And its not even that bad for grinds. It also sleeps Forever! (Not littlerally Forever, but a REALLY Long Time. lol) thats cool. how does it compare to the meteor? ---
**Author:** ![j\_lowell9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/j_lowell9/32/358_2.png) [@j\_lowell9](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/j_lowell9)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-phenomizm-or-something-else/20811/9 "2010-11-12T00:57:17Z")
phenomizm is amazing and a beast for 1a play i would definetatley take it into serious consideration ---
**Author:** ![kreeschun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a4c791/32.png) [@kreeschun](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kreeschun)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-phenomizm-or-something-else/20811/10 "2010-11-12T03:27:09Z")
what’s do you guys think is better, the PHENOMizm or Meteor? (Not concerning price) ---
**Author:** ![Ariq\_PGM\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19adc/32.png) [@Ariq\_PGM\_2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ariq_PGM_2)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-phenomizm-or-something-else/20811/11 "2010-11-12T10:01:37Z")
I think it is this way Phenomizm\>Phenom\>Speeder\>Meteor I really think YoyoJam’s bi-metal plays better than their full metal counterparts.