# should I buy a dm?

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**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [September 11, 2009, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-a-dm/6469 "2009-09-11T23:30:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smoke770077](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85f322/32.png) [@Smoke770077](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Smoke770077)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-a-dm/6469/21 "2009-09-15T21:21:21Z")

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> [@YoYoBlaze](#):
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> yes i would buy a DM(Dude were in the same EXACT situation:VElocity and planning to buy a DM while still in the Advanced 1 section lol)  
> another thing to remember about the DM:  
> IT is a complete different feeling compared to the Velocity. Bigger and heavier.  
> if you’re looking for a similar metal rimmed yoyo get a speeder(but it plays fast so…) or a speedmaker( also plays fast…) or a good legacy(planning to try one)  
> remember when you get a yoyo see what you do and what you don’t like about it. you can build preferences from there and know what you want next

The Speeder and Speedmaker will only play as fast as you make it play… Its not like all the sudden the yoyo will start going too fast for you to handle…

I say to look at the pictures and decide for your self…

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**Author:** ![Sir\_Yoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sir_yoyo/32/280_2.png) [@Sir\_Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sir_Yoyo)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-a-dm/6469/22 "2009-09-15T22:08:08Z")

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> [@iafencer](#):
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> Do you think the dm will improve my play?

That’s a silly question! How can an object improve one’s skill? It may make the tricks easier to perform, but it won’t make you better. The Dark Magic is good for a beginner going into intermediate, or even intermediate going into advanced. It is not my personal favorite but it is a very well designed yo-yo. But maybe a better choice would be Legacy, essentially because it’s cheaper. I have never tried one, but supposedly it’s very similar to the DM, same shape and such. Whatever the case, I’m sure you will love the outcome. ;D

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**Author:** ![its\_honza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f475e1/32.png) [@its\_honza](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/its_honza)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-a-dm/6469/23 "2009-09-15T22:46:45Z")

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NEW BREED same price as the DM but 8X better :o  
and yes I like highlights much more than other strings (BESIDES element string) and the bright color really helps when doing whips or slacks.Or if you want to stick with yyf, go with the counter-attack  
or as an alternate wait another month or three weeks and get a PROTOSTAR! :wink:

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**Author:** ![anthony2025](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/anthony2025/32/264_2.png) [@anthony2025](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anthony2025)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-a-dm/6469/24 "2009-09-17T00:53:47Z")

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> [@Shisaki](#):
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> > [@anthony2025](#):
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> > Just go whit a Legacy, totally smoother, perfect weight, perfect shape, perfect response, and a amazing spin time ;D. Is by now my favorite throw; I like it more than my DM (the dm is a really heavy throw, but haves lots of spin times, it really spins for ever :o). If you want something different go whit a PGM.  
> > Dont buy a Die-Nasty, is not a stackless PGM, like someones says. It have a lot of woble and vibe, and the spin times suck :P. The only thing that you can do if you have one of these, is silicone it and use it like a cheap yoyo.  
> > Go whit Highlights, or YYE 100% poly strings, they are exactly the same thing. You can even try some kitty string, really softer, unresponsive and hold the tension better tha a highlight :D.  
> > Lucky ;),  
> > Anthony
> 
> _Facepalm_  
> You do realize the spin times depend on your throw right? Highlites and YYE string are NOT the same, doesnt last as long as Highlites for me. And the Die-nasty, in the right hands, will spin longer than you with a DM.

I dont agree whit you, my die-nasty is just the worst throw that I have, lots of woble and nothing of spin times.  
But you are right, maybe in the right hands it can be a good throw.  
The YYE string and the highlights are the same, I have both and they are identic ;).

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**Author:** ![yoyomac888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/c5a1d2/32.png) [@yoyomac888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyomac888)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-a-dm/6469/25 "2009-09-17T19:09:43Z")

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I LOVE the pgm, but I can pretty much do ANY trick on a 2 minute throw so it’s either your skill or just the volocity but i’m not sure because i’ve never tried a volocity. :wink:

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**Author:** ![iafencer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a8b319/32.png) [@iafencer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/iafencer)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-a-dm/6469/26 "2009-09-17T22:13:41Z")

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Hey, thanks for the recommendations. I will definitely check out those yoyos. I hadn’t even looked at some of the one’s suggested here before. And I will try the highlites string too. Where is the best place to buy them? I have been meaning to try the KK bearing as well. Will it fit on my Velocity?  
I really like the feel of my Velocity, but would like to try something completely different. The two minute spin time I get out of the Velocity is fine, but the last half of that time the yoyo is slowing down pretty fast and any force put on that small yoyo seems to really affect it. My theory is that the larger size and increased rim weight of the DM will help me plow through some of my poor technique until I get more experienced. We’ll see I guess. I can bind, but am not great at it yet, so the resposive / unresponsive issue is kind of important for now too.

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**Author:** ![Gafunka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/858c86/32.png) [@Gafunka](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gafunka)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-a-dm/6469/27 "2009-09-17T23:08:32Z")

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The best place to buy this stuff?

Easy.

Here.

Really, they ship fast, are reliable, and it helps to keep this place up and running.

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**Author:** ![AeroSlaYa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AeroSlaYa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AeroSlaYa)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/should-i-buy-a-dm/6469/28 "2009-09-18T11:17:42Z")

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> [@iafencer](#):
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> Hey, thanks for the recommendations. I will definitely check out those yoyos. I hadn’t even looked at some of the one’s suggested here before. And I will try the highlites string too. Where is the best place to buy them? I have been meaning to try the KK bearing as well. Will it fit on my Velocity?  
> I really like the feel of my Velocity, but would like to try something completely different. The two minute spin time I get out of the Velocity is fine, but the last half of that time the yoyo is slowing down pretty fast and any force put on that small yoyo seems to really affect it. My theory is that the larger size and increased rim weight of the DM will help me plow through some of my poor technique until I get more experienced. We’ll see I guess. I can bind, but am not great at it yet, so the resposive / unresponsive issue is kind of important for now too.

well if you still can’t bind that well, work on it. practics until you can really get all the intermediate tricks down perfectly. it will also help in the advanced sections and are goood crowd pleasers when you perform in front of your frieds

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