# Sengoku Shinobi in production **URL:** \ **Category:** Manufacturer Official News\ **Created:** [July 13, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548 "2021-07-13T01:27:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![anon14765792](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@anon14765792](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon14765792)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/81 "2021-09-11T16:58:08Z")
> [@YoyoGeezer](#): > > Are we actually telling people where and how to buy this yo-yo from retailers that are NOT YoyoExpert? That violates the community guidelines and further disadvantages YoyoExpert Ironically what you do is against the guidelines. Here is an excerpt of the guidelines > **Flag and PM if you have problems** > It is fine to offer friendly advice, but please don’t play moderator. While your intentions may be good, it makes you look like a not so pleasant person when telling someone they posted in the wrong section. If someone needs moderator assistance, simply press the flag button on the post and your friendly staff can help! (I know I know this includes me too) ---
**Author:** ![Theycallmecotton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theycallmecotton/32/253526_2.png) [@Theycallmecotton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Theycallmecotton)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/82 "2021-09-11T16:58:19Z")
No I do not because again…I made sure to follow their own guidelines and made sure it didn’t show the source. The screen shot was just to show which one i got lol. No need to make a big deal about it. ---
**Author:** ![BadAtYoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/badatyoyos/32/80530_2.png) [@BadAtYoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BadAtYoyos)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/83 "2021-09-11T17:04:23Z")
> [@YoyoGeezer](#): > > The real issue is that Sengoku has had this yo-yo for sale for weeks now elsewhere. What’s the issue? If it’s elsewhere and people have to have it NOW they can go get it elsewhere. At no point did Sengoku use this platform to send people to other shops. > [@NeoHamster](#): > > September 10 ish for YYE, depends on intl shipping times which are crazy nowadays Seems like they were pretty transparent about when people can buy here if they really want to–again no mention of where else it would be sold; and there’s even going to be a YYE-exclusive colorway. Not trying to pick a fight, I just don’t see why this is a problem at all 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/84 "2021-09-11T17:12:23Z")
It is even mentioned there that exact dates for availability on YYE are subject to “international shipping times which are crazy nowadays” which means it is completely out of their hands when YYE will eventually get them. ---
**Author:** ![Throw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/throw/32/136711_2.png) [@Throw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Throw)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/85 "2021-09-11T17:36:27Z")
Personally, I appreciate @Theycallmecotton purchasing it and willingness to give a review. I’ve been eyeing this yoyo but since I’ve had bad experiences purchasing outside of YYE, I’m not willing to try another site. When this yoyo drops on YYE, I really find others’ feedback helpful in deciding to buy one and also whether I want to adjust my schedule to purchase one the minute it drops. In other words, it can help YYE too since many people are like me and loyal to purchasing from YYE. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/86 "2021-09-11T17:41:41Z")
Same here. I’d rather wait to get it on YYE than get it earlier some place else. ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/87 "2021-09-13T16:01:13Z")
Shinobi will be up sometime this week, I’ll make sure to link here once I have the page ready to go too. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/88 "2021-09-14T22:12:54Z")
![Shinobi-Extra](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/1/a/c1ab4df27b7be4eef7ffc4a93c5d88a985349fd4.jpeg) > [@New release from Sengoku - The Tri-metal SHINOBI!](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-release-from-sengoku-the-tri-metal-shinobi/344708): > > SHINOBI: Sengoku is pushing their m-shape profile to a new level with their latest design - This is the Shinobi! [Shinobi-Red-YYE-1\_1024x1024] [Shinobi-Red-YYE-2\_1024x1024] The Shinobi is a new take on the m-shape profile we saw previously in their Samurai model, but utilizing a complex tri-metal construction. It features an aluminum body with stainless steel outer rims and brass inner rims, creating unique weight distribution and increases the rotational force to maximize spin power and stabi… ---
**Author:** ![NeoHamster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/neohamster/32/1550_2.png) [@NeoHamster](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NeoHamster)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/89 "2021-09-14T22:57:53Z")
> [@YoyoGeezer](#): > > If Sengoku is going to tease us with designs; it seems just unfair that it is not available on YYE at the same time as on other sites. What is not fair are your comments. What you are basically suggesting is that practically I shouldn´t tease the upcoming models at all before release. For many years I set simultaneous release dates because the shippings were predictable… until Covid happened and intl shipping times became unpredictably crazy. It would be unfair if I start selling the yoyos before shipping to YYE, I always do limited small quantity pre-sales and never advertise them, the buyers are 99% the same as usual, which are not taken from any store customer base. I sold 3 yoyos to america and 1 to Canada (4 grand total), which none of them has arrived yet. I mentioned an estimate arrival to YYE so people knows buying from abroad would not necesarily have them earlier and without YYE local customer service. No other America based store will have the yoyo before YYE (only other store that carries Sengoku out of Japan is REWIND USA, which doesn´t have the Shinobi as of yet. ) YYE is the has special colors, which not even the official Sengoku store has it. An act of unfairness requires premeditation. I have no control over the current situation. At the end of the day, YYE sales are my sales, doing such thing would be shooting myself at my feet. ---
**Author:** ![hobby\_master](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobby_master/32/145533_2.png) [@hobby\_master](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobby_master)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/90 "2021-09-14T23:01:19Z")
We need a sassy girl snapping emoji- why haven’t they made that yet ---
**Author:** ![Chickenpoodlesoup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chickenpoodlesoup/32/125846_2.png) [@Chickenpoodlesoup](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Chickenpoodlesoup)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/91 "2021-09-14T23:06:17Z")
Excited to get my hands on the raw version. It’s really beautiful. ---
**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/92 "2021-09-14T23:39:40Z")
I stand by my comments. Your claimed shipping issues are irrelevant. Models should be released simultaneously to be fair to all retailers. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/93 "2021-09-14T23:41:34Z")
I want a red one. 😍 ---
**Author:** ![NeoHamster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/neohamster/32/1550_2.png) [@NeoHamster](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NeoHamster)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2021, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/94 "2021-09-14T23:44:44Z")
> [@YoyoGeezer](#): > > Your claimed shipping issues are irrelevant. Much the opposite, shipping issues are so relevant that makes a coordinated release a nightmare. ---
**Author:** ![Microcystin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bcef8e/32.png) [@Microcystin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Microcystin)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/95 "2021-09-15T00:58:06Z")
I thought this thread was really going down the “Get off my lawn you ungrateful kids” trail then I realized it’s actually just that weird Portlandia sense of entitlement. ---
**Author:** ![Microcystin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bcef8e/32.png) [@Microcystin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Microcystin)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/97 "2021-09-15T01:19:47Z")
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**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/98 "2021-09-17T20:45:56Z")
Mail days like this remind of of how very lucky indeed I am. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/d/b/edb1e24fcc37309c65b8af660ce1b70d683c871b.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/1/4/8148725a8066e7684cf8ade5f1c83b432677667e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/99 "2021-09-17T20:54:44Z")
First impressions? Trying to get past my hatred of gold-colored things since the rest look squirky-AF, which is my jam. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548/100 "2021-09-17T21:14:50Z")
First impression? I don’t know if you’re familiar with the Samurai, but it was the original m shape yoyo from Sengoku. It really went all in with the crazy my shape, making the steel rims extend quite far past the aluminum, making the whole yo-yo feel like a super wide. It was a weird design, that happened to work really well. This…feels like the Samurai (still an M shape) but a little more “mature”, less extreme. The M shape is a little more understated, and the performance is what more would consider to be in line with competition throws. Which is a little surprising, given that it has a second set of weight rims. I’m still playing though. Stay tuned… [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/sengoku-shinobi-in-production/341548.md?page=4)