# Riforgiate Design - Prototype Run **URL:** \ **Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\ **Created:** [December 20, 2024, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518 "2024-12-20T09:18:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/382 "2025-10-02T09:49:35Z")
How’s that string look if it’s worn out enough makes sense ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/383 "2025-10-02T09:50:29Z")
![Queen bee all](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/6/7/b6728f03fbcd0892c21bcca228f905273a77e8f6.jpeg) ![Profile 1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/b/5/9b548a239dfa4770f07763667cd0591a4ca13aae.jpeg) ![Profile 2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/5/7/e57cc6c47710d8ec2b50db4e90b7e9a39fff5378.jpeg) ![Inside 1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/4/3/44377c8dd1bcb5ee2786880861e780f2dab497d0.jpeg) ![Inside 2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/2/d/b2db63e378f8608d6c18be387056ca196ca549b4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/384 "2025-10-02T09:53:05Z")
![Cup 1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/2/7/027d641b273c16d90d4aded3a5326e0632f02252.jpeg) ![Cup2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/c/7/cc75ec5d1437b20794a4be710c0b8b3fecf6f91d.jpeg) ![Note](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/2/f/e2fc0b70c0ce5820c60a7cd63399acc220b6bb99.jpeg) ![IMG_8831](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/4/b/f4b15b695861a81192f90a5285954082df030855.jpeg) ![IMG_8826](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/f/9/af99c6d8ad641c2cc0f2e31e6d9ecbeb3dd80904.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/385 "2025-10-02T09:57:36Z")
Got my queen bee in and it’s dope. FYI a d bearing blank from zgrt sits right ontop of everything and doesn’t move making it a nice looping responsive that’s fairly silent. ---
**Author:** ![Lotaxi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lotaxi/32/597486_2.png) [@Lotaxi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lotaxi)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/386 "2025-10-02T16:16:31Z")
Probably makes the gap a bit wider, no? It would be clamping the outer race of a regular d bearing on the spokes I think? ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/387 "2025-10-02T16:41:58Z")
![IMG_8838](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/4/b/e4bee9a0a74727b0a26d796e8cac16af1e16d7bc.jpeg) ![IMG_8839](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/9/e/49e5587abf4677c55327a58af0d249faa7531516.jpeg) Sort of. It’s thin so it’s technically a smaller gap and the groove centers but allows for decent spin for a blank but yeah it just sits on the spokes essentially ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/388 "2025-10-02T16:48:52Z")
ZGRT D blank is 3 mm wide. It’s narrower than an A bearing. Honestly interesting config how it sits on the spokes and being a blank, a 3 mm gap is gonna still be pretty responsive, some tricks might be trickier but I stuck a 3.5 mm wide laser cut maple wood mr85 blank in a plasm the other day and it was still very responsive haha. Fixies behave differently especially when response pads get involved. ---
**Author:** ![rkalajian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rkalajian/32/672584_2.png) [@rkalajian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rkalajian)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/389 "2025-10-02T17:35:11Z")
I’m gonna toss that blank in tonight and give it a shot! ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/390 "2025-10-02T18:06:16Z")
I **t’s** the engraving under the pads results in way more grip of the adhesive. Means these cork pads refuse to come out but also means it’s hard to salvage pads to swap something else in for testing. For the average person this is great. For me trying to test various combinations of printed pads from @AudreySickburn it was tedious ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/7/c/87c4a7a7d17f62f8c67e6225bb7f7cfc1c202b5b.jpeg) lol ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/391 "2025-10-02T18:53:37Z")
FYI I’ve also made a lot of changes to my 3d printer pads. Mainly better materials that are softer and more grippy. I can mail you some fresh ones. The ones that I sent in the waffle stompers are of the nicer material. ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/392 "2025-10-02T18:55:16Z")
One thing I’ve noticed and this is probably more machine tolerances between the 3d printed and machined YoYo but some of the pads fit too snug and need to be trimmed. It’s interesting ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/393 "2025-10-02T19:09:26Z")
That is interesting. Previously my only testers were some plastic yo-yos from the 90s or early 2000s and they test fit in those. I’ll have to try some out in my queen. ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/394 "2025-10-02T21:35:43Z")
I suspect needing to trim the pads is for the older more rigid materials? I’ve switched my pad production to shore 75 and shore 83 TPE rubber for just about everything. I did find out that my current pads don’t fit the queen but do fit classic plastic throws though. Here’s why far as I can tell. You can see here one fits and done doesn’t ![IMG_0644](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/e/9/ee9d51f3114252e615b2813405a931df572bd44a.jpeg) My pads are a hair smaller than the opening and stretchy soft rubber, they kind of form around the spokes and stay in place pretty well without adhesive on most things. I measured the pad recesses in both classic and the queen and they had identical measurements. They had one difference though. The spokes on the classic yoyo are straight square walls ![IMG_0647](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/1/e/c1efb0113444c7944cb3b9930387baaeb7eadd4d.jpeg) The queen has a chamfer on the spokes that has it slope down. This likely makes the cork pads slip in easier but it makes holding down soft rubber without adhesive impossible. ![IMG_0648](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/0/1/301a2733a416dd72656a6c740deac80b36501289.jpeg) I’ll have to try adding some adhesive to some of my pads and see if they stay in place in the queen. ---
**Author:** ![Lotaxi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lotaxi/32/597486_2.png) [@Lotaxi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lotaxi)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/395 "2025-10-02T22:00:58Z")
I’m happy to toss a few more pairs in the mail so you can test without worrying about destroying the ones you’ve got. The adhesive _is_ crazy strong… I’ve got a gallon bag full of cork pads in my office, but for shipping I had to pick a number and 5 pairs was it. ---
**Author:** ![Lotaxi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lotaxi/32/597486_2.png) [@Lotaxi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lotaxi)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/396 "2025-10-02T22:03:29Z")
> [@AudreySickburn](#): > > makes the cork pads slip in easier but it makes holding down soft rubber without adhesive impossible Oh damn that makes sense, I didn’t think about it. I chamfer all machined edges to make super sure that there’s no sharp edges. I can reduce the size of them, though. IIRC these are .010 inch deep, I can drop that to .003 or .005. ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/397 "2025-10-02T22:39:06Z")
Ohh I have plenty of spare cork lol I’ll Bo alright ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/398 "2025-10-02T22:41:15Z")
I mean that’s probably a good thing with a metal responsive yoyo to avoid it becoming a string eater. I do imagine reducing the chamfer might also reduce the chance if the string falling into the bearing seat as it wears down ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/399 "2025-10-02T23:14:16Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/d/6/7d6707f63e831309c8e355f36cb3dfdee4af344c.jpeg "Queen Bee - Sound Test") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_wUXGOmOKA) ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/400 "2025-10-02T23:47:27Z")
You made it silent. I’ve gone back to a bearing and put a concave a I had in it. ---
**Author:** ![Lotaxi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lotaxi/32/597486_2.png) [@Lotaxi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lotaxi)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2025, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518/401 "2025-10-03T03:34:55Z")
Whoooooaaaaa those honeycomb rims look SWEET in motion [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518.md?page=19) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/riforgiate-design-prototype-run/415518.md?page=21)