# Ricochet and other undersized yoyos. **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [October 24, 2015, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553 "2015-10-24T19:21:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FoolsGoldDigger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/foolsgolddigger/32/7928_2.png) [@FoolsGoldDigger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FoolsGoldDigger)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/1 "2015-10-24T19:21:29Z")
What is your favorite undersized yoyo and why? Mine is the nova, but I really want to try out the ricochet. ---
**Author:** ![Connorspears](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Connorspears](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Connorspears)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/2 "2015-10-24T20:26:03Z")
Puffin 2 is so nice ---
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/3 "2015-10-24T20:35:03Z")
> [@Connorspears](#): > > Puffin 2 is so nice Puffin 2 is undersized? ---
**Author:** ![felipe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/felipe/32/1394_2.png) [@felipe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/felipe)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/4 "2015-10-24T20:36:20Z")
Definitely the Ricochet! ---
**Author:** ![Rosenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rosenberg/32/20465_2.png) [@Rosenberg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rosenberg)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/5 "2015-10-24T20:58:06Z")
Aurora. Because Ti ---
**Author:** ![gijoey959](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gijoey959/32/7958_2.png) [@gijoey959](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/gijoey959)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/6 "2015-10-24T21:21:36Z")
> [@nightshadow](#): > > Puffin 2 is undersized? Puffin 2 is midsized IMO My favorite undersized yoyo is the Markmont. Project or Next, those are pretty much tied for favorite ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/7 "2015-10-24T21:22:01Z")
Does the ti-walker count? If not, then the Nobunaga is nice šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![logickrazed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@logickrazed](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/logickrazed)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/8 "2015-10-24T21:31:36Z")
mine would have to be the popstar, maybe because its my second undersized throw but hopefully i get some new throws soon ---
**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/9 "2015-10-24T22:20:32Z")
Skyline, 888 and M1. All very nice. ---
**Author:** ![Heero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/heero/32/7973_2.png) [@Heero](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Heero)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/10 "2015-10-24T22:21:05Z")
> [@gijoey959](#): > > Puffin 2 is midsized IMO > > My favorite undersized yoyo is the Markmont. Project or Next, those are pretty much tied for favorite wouldnt mid sized be considered full sized? Thought it was under sized(54\<) full sized(54-56) and over sized(56\>). Wait, the puffin is 54 isnā€™t it? ---
**Author:** ![French](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/french/32/70748_2.png) [@French](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/French)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/11 "2015-10-25T01:28:15Z")
Tough choice, either Ricochet or Monkey Fist. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/12 "2015-10-25T01:56:39Z")
> [@Heero](#): > > wouldnt mid sized be considered full sized? Thought it was under sized(54\<) full sized(54-56) and over sized(56\>). > > Wait, the puffin is 54 isnā€™t it? Puffin is 53 ---
**Author:** ![Heero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/heero/32/7973_2.png) [@Heero](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Heero)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/13 "2015-10-25T02:26:32Z")
> [@JohnnyJ](#): > > Puffin is 53 oh. So that counts as undersized. Puffin 2 all the way. ---
**Author:** ![S3TH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/s3th/32/260337_2.png) [@S3TH](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/S3TH)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/14 "2015-10-25T03:36:45Z")
08 888 and sb basselope are fun. Wish I had an 07 888. Even though itā€™s 54mm the schneider mk-II feels very undersized because it has such a straight profile. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/15 "2015-10-25T05:45:05Z")
Puffin 2 ā€¦ undersized? Whateverā€¦ you guys can try to strictly classify if you want, but thatā€™s a mid-sized throw all the way. :wink: My favourite undersized is the Spin Dynamics Smooth Move. Itā€™s not the most high-performance yoyo ever made (itā€™s a light organic like the 888) but it has a special feel to it. I just dig it. It makes me happy to play it. šŸ™‚ I had a lot of love for the Spin Dynamics Monkey Fist and also the SPYY Supra, too, though. Thatā€™s the real undersized right thereā€¦ hovering around 50mm. None of this 53, 53.5mm pretending to be undersized stuff. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/16 "2015-10-25T06:10:46Z")
53mm would be the leviathan series 52 would be the angle or pyro 3 51mm would be pacquiao 50 would be the 07 888 Under 50 would be the eli dert ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/17 "2015-10-25T06:38:00Z")
I have many yoyos in every size range pretty muchā€¦ Few 4a yoyos; so not many above sayā€¦ 58mm. And depending on who you talk to, the size/diameter ranges will vary. After cutting up yoyos since 1998, I have my own rough sizing system(in my mind, lol). Realize that because we All have various ā€˜feelings of sizeā€™ partly based on hand size; a yoyo that seems large(56/57mm) to one person, may feel mid sized to a person with larger hands like Chris Allen for example. Me; I wear a size medium work glove. So my rough size system is personally guided by my hand size. Larger 1A yoyos: 55/56/57/58mm Mid. Sized 1A yoyos: 52/53/54mm Small 1A yoyos: 49/50/51mm Undersized 1A yoyos: 48mm and under I have never Googled it but maybe somebody or some site has posted up a reasonably accurate yoyo sizing chart? Dunno? But if we just donā€™t want to agree on specific size range groupings, let me give an example of 4 yoyos that I am not even gonna measure. But that I would consider to be different sizes just sitting them next to each other on a table or holding in your hands one after the other\> 1. YYR Overdrive 2. CLYW Puffin 3. CLYW Campfire 4. YYR Cube The Cube feels really small compared to the Campfire. If you throw the Campfire for 10 minutes and then throw the Puffin; the Puffin feels like a chunky beast, lol. Put down the chubby Puffin and pick up the Overdrive and you suddenly have a V shaped handful. As some of your replies indicate; different folks have different ideas on what group a yoyo represents. Especially when you consider some yoyos are borderline measurements: 53.8mm or 54.7mm or 52.9mm, etc. Also sometimes the width or even the perceived width has an effect on now you brain decides to ā€˜sizeā€™ a yoyo. For example, a YYF Monster. Not that large in diameter, but Seriously wiiiideā€¦ Some folks would consider it to be a larger yoyo just because it is a Handful. Or the XCube Seed. It is a larger diameter and very wide. And it prolly seems Huge to some people. So unless you want to identify size groups by specific Diameter range limitations; width and overall feel in the hand play a large part of ā€˜size perceptionā€™. Didnā€™t that explanation sound scientific? Lolol ---
**Author:** ![mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mysteriousyoyoer_par)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/18 "2015-10-25T08:35:38Z")
General yo entheos is fun. And yelets in nice too. ---
**Author:** ![Totalartist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/totalartist/32/1054_2.png) [@Totalartist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Totalartist)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/19 "2015-10-25T09:57:09Z")
For me, the Ricochet is definitely the #1 undersized yo-yo. Itā€™s solid, stable, ultra durable, and gorgeous. I consider undersized no more than 52. So, I consider Puffin 2 a mid-sized throw. After reading some of these posts, we definitely donā€™t agree on what ā€œundersizedā€ means. ---
**Author:** ![seanthegiraffe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/seanthegiraffe/32/1554_2.png) [@seanthegiraffe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/seanthegiraffe)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553/20 "2015-10-26T02:34:07Z")
Like many people, my favorite undersized is the ricochet. I just love the way it feels in the hand and also on the string. Plus, it is one of my favorite yoyos to photograph šŸ˜ƒ [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ricochet-and-other-undersized-yoyos/77553.md?page=2)