# Returning!

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/returning/79372>\
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [February 21, 2016, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/returning/79372 "2016-02-21T00:17:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![JamieS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@JamieS](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JamieS)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/returning/79372/1 "2016-02-21T00:17:07Z")

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Hey guys,

I played a lot in 2010, and had a reasonably large youtube channel called “Runez4lyf”… Oh the good old days.

Anyway, I’m just getting back into the swing of things and was wondering the best brands and yo-yos around at the moment. My budget is $200, so most will be okay! Currently using my 888x.

Many thanks,

Jamie

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**Author:** ![JamieS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@JamieS](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JamieS)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/returning/79372/2 "2016-02-21T00:21:08Z")

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Also, any general news about things that have changed since 2010!

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**Author:** ![Maverick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@Maverick](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Maverick)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/returning/79372/3 "2016-02-21T01:28:25Z")

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I personally would recommend any CLYW, or any bimetals you like the look of. Since you basically cant go wrong these days ;D.

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**Author:** ![JamieS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@JamieS](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JamieS)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/returning/79372/4 "2016-02-21T01:37:44Z")

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Is the CLYW Chief any good?

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**Author:** ![\_RTD\_alecto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/_rtd_alecto/32/1336_2.png) [@\_RTD\_alecto](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/_RTD_alecto)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/returning/79372/5 "2016-02-21T02:21:42Z")

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okay so if you want to learn some of the history of whats past. go to yoyonews and read through the stuff there.

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**Author:** ![Old\_Yoer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/old_yoer/32/20548_2.png) [@Old\_Yoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Old_Yoer)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/returning/79372/6 "2016-02-21T02:25:06Z")

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One of the big differences between 2016 and 2010 is how good the budget market has gotten. You don’t to spend $150 or even $80 to get great performance anymore. I’d recommend holding off on a big splurge until you’re back into the hobby for a little while and know what’s out there and what you really want better.

Until then I’d recommend getting a $10 or $20 plastic like a YoyoJam Classic (plus silicone pads and a wide bearing to make it play unresponsive) or a C3 Speedaholic or a YoYoFactory Replay Pro. Or else a $45-50 budget metal like a One Drop Vanguard or a YYF Too HOT. You could even get an ultra budget metal like a $10 Magic YoYo N12 Shark Honor because they play great and get the job done too.

P.S. - Yes, that Chief is a great yoyo. Expensive, but great.

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**Author:** ![JamieS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@JamieS](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JamieS)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/returning/79372/7 "2016-02-21T12:07:00Z")

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> [@Old\_Yoer](#):
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> One of the big differences between 2016 and 2010 is how good the budget market has gotten. You don’t to spend $150 or even $80 to get great performance anymore. I’d recommend holding off on a big splurge until you’re back into the hobby for a little while and know what’s out there and what you really want better.
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> Until then I’d recommend getting a $10 or $20 plastic like a YoyoJam Classic (plus silicone pads and a wide bearing to make it play unresponsive) or a C3 Speedaholic or a YoYoFactory Replay Pro. Or else a $45-50 budget metal like a One Drop Vanguard or a YYF Too HOT. You could even get an ultra budget metal like a $10 Magic YoYo N12 Shark Honor because they play great and get the job done too.
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> P.S. - Yes, that Chief is a great yoyo. Expensive, but great.

Thank you so much!! And Bi-metals weren’t around back then, whats the benefit?

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**Author:** ![Lex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lex/32/1599_2.png) [@Lex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lex)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/returning/79372/8 "2016-02-21T13:00:52Z")

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Bi-metals tend to sleep longer and be more stable. You can run the risk of them feeling a bit heavy and having a bit of a thud at the end of the string (I only have one bi-metal, the YYR Valkyrie, and it doesn’t have this problem). I think bi-metals are really good if you want a high performance yoyo so you should try one if you get the chance.

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**Author:** ![Cory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Cory](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cory)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/returning/79372/9 "2016-02-21T18:07:20Z")

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I got the 2sick Knight in yesterday its my only bimetal and at 63g it feels fantastic not to heavy on the string but still good spin times and stability. My only complaint is the bearing is insanely loud i swapped it out and have tried to clean and lube with no luck.

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**Author:** ![mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mysteriousyoyoer_par)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/returning/79372/10 "2016-02-21T19:43:53Z")

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Get a pulsefire or weekend or horizon.

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**Author:** ![Old\_Yoer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/old_yoer/32/20548_2.png) [@Old\_Yoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Old_Yoer)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/returning/79372/11 "2016-02-21T20:02:56Z")

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> [@JamieS](#):
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> Thank you so much!! And Bi-metals weren’t around back then, whats the benefit?

Basically, because of the different densities of the metals used in a bi-metal yoyo, you can get the spin time and stability due to the extreme weight around the rims of a bi-metal of a much heavier mono-metal yoyo without having to increase the weight. Most of the frenzy you’ll see around bi-metals is just hype in my opinion. The yoyos I listed for you can already perform virtually any trick out there.

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**Author:** ![Cannon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Cannon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cannon)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/returning/79372/12 "2016-02-22T02:44:53Z")

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I agree with old yoer on this. No need to go out and spend a ton. There are some great yoyos out there for a great price (under $50). Yoyofficer and yoyo factory both have many nice options in this price range. Even just a replay pro for $13 can do about any trick you can throw at it.

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**Author:** ![JamieS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@JamieS](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JamieS)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/returning/79372/13 "2016-02-22T14:54:29Z")

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Are concave bearings still a thing?

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**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/returning/79372/14 "2016-02-22T17:46:12Z")

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> [@JamieS](#):
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> Is the CLYW Chief any good?

Yes, the Chief is amazing!

> [@JamieS](#):
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> Are concave bearings still a thing?

Yes
