# Return Bottoms aka Sickburn Yo-Yo Workshop News and Updates **URL:** \ **Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\ **Created:** [July 25, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149 "2025-07-25T20:50:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/782 "2026-02-27T15:14:40Z")
I hadn’t seen those, that’s funny because it’s a titanium yoyo released with a pvd coating for really cheap and profits going to charity. This sounds vaguely familiar. There are no original ideas :joy: So it looks like it did use a PVD coating as well. It’s apparently a different PVD coating (you can apply almost any kind of metal or ceramic as a coating using pvd) ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/783 "2026-02-27T15:23:22Z")
One other difference I’m finding between this and the TiVayder is this will be blasted which should provide additional adhesion of the pvd compared to a smooth finish. Hopefully improving it’s durability compared to that one. ---
**Author:** ![Upmanyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e68b1a/32.png) [@Upmanyu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Upmanyu)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/784 "2026-02-27T15:47:15Z")
Ah I love the one on the black tivayder. It feels glossy like enamel or something. ---
**Author:** ![megachicken289](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/megachicken289/32/260130_2.png) [@megachicken289](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/megachicken289)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/785 "2026-02-27T15:49:26Z")
In fairness, I was speaking more to the general “wear and tear” aspect, rather than any particular coating ---
**Author:** ![megachicken289](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/megachicken289/32/260130_2.png) [@megachicken289](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/megachicken289)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/786 "2026-02-27T15:50:08Z")
> [@AudreySickburn](#): > > There are no original ideas The moment Andy decided to close up shop ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/787 "2026-02-27T15:50:13Z")
Yeah PVD is a form of industrial ceramic often. In my case this is Titanium Nitride. Like the gold tip on fancy drill bits actually. ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/788 "2026-02-27T15:53:24Z")
I love @codinghorror if I am releasing a cheap grade 5 titanium yoyo with a PVD coating and giving all profits to charity and he already had the idea before that is just me borrowing from his Stack Overflow. :joy: ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/789 "2026-02-27T16:12:19Z")
You may end up right. My shop thinks it should be durable on impact, but I can’t predict the future. The Ultem was a disaster, the durability made them shatter at the axle being unusable. The good news is the worst case scenario on these isn’t shattering into a million pieces it’s some visual wear and tear. PVD has been done I think once before with a different formula, I now know, but not this particular Titanium Nitride ceramic and not on a blasted finish. So we are in new adventure territory and I fear attempting to push the envelope and try new things in yo-yo is my kryptonite. So worst case scenario is we raise a bunch of money to a worthy charity, and a lesson is learned and next time I do the safer bet of electrochemical ano instead. just kidding worst case is I just spent 8 grand on yo-yos nobody will want and go out of business. :joy: To Adventure! ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/790 "2026-02-27T16:25:59Z")
The TiVayder is even outer space pop culture sci fi themed too :joy:😝 I hadn’t even seen that thread or yoyo before so this is the funniest thing ever to me ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/791 "2026-02-27T17:53:20Z")
For the couple folks with protos I am tracking 4 changes between prototype and production. 1. the pad recess is being widened on the outer diameter by 0.1 mm to ease pad installation. 2. the Ra value (used to measure machining surface roughness) is being reduced from 3.2 to 0.8. This will improve overall fit and finish. 3. the Titanium Nitride “prism orchid” colored PVD. 4. 0.3-0.5 mm chamfered edge breaks at 45 degree angles on any sharp edges (think around the bearing seat and post) ---
**Author:** ![Xanadu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xanadu/32/84910_2.png) [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/792 "2026-02-27T18:50:37Z")
> [@AudreySickburn](#): > > Hopefully improving it’s durability compared to that one. Ya, I seem to remember it was a ceramic coating. I haven’t heard of any issues with it though 🤷‍♂️. My Ti-Vayder is raw so I can’t offer any comments on it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/793 "2026-02-28T16:50:35Z")
I generally prefer Throw Yo string but sometimes you just need bulk poly and the best bulk poly is gone. We miss you RCS. Jeremy has kindly provided me with the supplier and formula for Oh Canada and I’m bringing it back baby! I did ask the manufacturer to make it a purple stripe instead of a red because I do not want to impersonate or counterfeit the original string even if it’s the same formula and supplier. ![I can't Believe It's Not Canada](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/7/2/972d6271a7ec4c3cee1cf52691683b9e0d12c079.png) ---
**Author:** ![SlowThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowthrow/32/307451_2.png) [@SlowThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowThrow)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/794 "2026-02-28T19:10:55Z")
And it’s purple?!? Fantastic!!! ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/795 "2026-02-28T19:18:49Z")
Stripe like this? ![1000005673](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/4/4/544f11940bc67020d0c7c3705df3d98c21539595.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/796 "2026-02-28T19:32:59Z")
RCS had a thinner color stripe so basically just imagine this but purple where the red stripe is ![IMG_1554](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/0/7/b07d46d28dfd374985d2fe2029018b2c8579db82.webp) ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/797 "2026-02-28T19:38:52Z")
I like that, very nice! ---
**Author:** ![Lido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lido/32/173650_2.png) [@Lido](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lido)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/798 "2026-03-01T05:15:50Z")
That Oh Canada string was really perfect for certain throws (the RBC for example). And a reference to I can’t believe it’s not butter is always welcome. Note to any string makers reading: Fruit stripe gum seems like a fitting thematic paring with multi color string for us “old heads” (as the kinder kids sometimes refer to us). ---
**Author:** ![rkalajian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rkalajian/32/672584_2.png) [@rkalajian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rkalajian)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/799 "2026-03-01T13:39:38Z")
I love that you’re able to bring old string back to live! ---
**Author:** ![rkalajian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rkalajian/32/672584_2.png) [@rkalajian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rkalajian)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/800 "2026-03-01T13:41:48Z")
Fun Fact, the OG Throw-Yo spun poly string, when I was still learning how to make string, was going to be called “Blackline”. Each string has a single black stripe running through each string. The original Monobath, Gentian Violet, and Neurotoxin colors where like this. ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/801 "2026-03-02T15:32:43Z")
Minimum order was 10,000 strings so I’m gonna have plenty in about a 1-2 months :joy: [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149.md?page=39) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149.md?page=41)