# Return Bottoms aka Sickburn Yo-Yo Workshop News and Updates

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**Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\
**Created:** [July 25, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149 "2025-07-25T20:50:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/402 "2025-11-13T17:48:43Z")

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Oh I didn’t say anything earlier because a lot of folks are waiting on NJ axles but I put the 3/4 spec deepest state compatible Ultem blanks up in the shop.

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**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/403 "2025-11-13T17:50:04Z")

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I’m not admitting to checking your site daily or anything but I noticed lol

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**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/404 "2025-11-17T05:17:32Z")

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Still waiting on the original shop to remake the caramels but the new shop just shipped out prototypes and those 10k mr85 pads and sent me photos!

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**Author:** ![rkalajian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rkalajian/32/672584_2.png) [@rkalajian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rkalajian)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/405 "2025-11-17T12:30:17Z")

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Those look MEGA RAD

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**Author:** ![jeffbenit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jeffbenit/32/934_2.png) [@jeffbenit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jeffbenit)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/406 "2025-11-17T12:58:08Z")

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Those look dope!! 😍

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**Author:** ![Overtinkering](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/overtinkering/32/663225_2.png) [@Overtinkering](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Overtinkering)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/407 "2025-11-17T13:34:34Z")

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These look fantastic!

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**Author:** ![CannibalCricket](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cannibalcricket/32/665098_2.png) [@CannibalCricket](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CannibalCricket)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/408 "2025-11-17T13:40:08Z")

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What are the green things? The brass is so nice!

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**Author:** ![baconeggnsteez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/baconeggnsteez/32/652285_2.png) [@baconeggnsteez](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/baconeggnsteez)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/409 "2025-11-17T14:52:32Z")

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These look so cool!!

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**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/410 "2025-11-17T15:16:52Z")

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The green things are similar to cabal guts but sized to 5mm posts to fit A, D, and MR85 bearings. The difference between them and cabal guts is they also have the seat that the bearing rests on built in and not just the post, so that if they are used for 3d prints they provide a stable rigid seat.

They will be offered to makers stand alone for affordable guts if they end up working well and being affordable. They may also be used on a bearing based Ultem throw some time in the future.

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**Author:** ![CannibalCricket](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cannibalcricket/32/665098_2.png) [@CannibalCricket](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CannibalCricket)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/411 "2025-11-17T15:19:12Z")

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That is really cool!

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**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/412 "2025-11-17T15:20:18Z")

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I hope some wood workers try these out if they feel the desire, I bet they’d make for some awesome wooden modern responsive as well

Great work on those, skys the limit with them

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**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/413 "2025-11-17T15:30:21Z")

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Ohh I’m excited for all of those.

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**Author:** ![Cdl12b](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cdl12b/32/659678_2.png) [@Cdl12b](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cdl12b)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/414 "2025-11-18T20:36:50Z")

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Just a little preference thing, but if the brass is gonna be raw, a blast might make it feel a bit chalky and grainy

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**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/415 "2025-11-18T20:39:46Z")

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Yeah I’m conflicted naturally because polished is much prettier but for play most folks prefer blasted to reduce friction for some tricks.

For the fixed axle the blast is also there to improve response and reduce slippage. For the bearing based pocket watch I may end up swapping to electro polished for the production run since that would better fit the pocket watch aesthetic.

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**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/416 "2025-11-18T21:54:35Z")

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I’m dumb, brass gets a wicked cool patina like Copper and nickel right?

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**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/417 "2025-11-18T22:05:12Z")

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Yes, not as aggressive of a patina as pure copper but it will develop an “antique” patina and eventually could develop some blue.

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**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/418 "2025-11-19T15:54:28Z")

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The No Jive axles are now live on Return Bottoms!

That’s the last of the blanks and axles I have planned at the moment.

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**Author:** ![Son-of-Morris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/son-of-morris/32/250533_2.png) [@Son-of-Morris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Son-of-Morris)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/419 "2025-11-19T18:41:31Z")

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Time to stock up, woot woot!

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**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/420 "2025-11-21T03:08:23Z")

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I retract that being the last blank I have planned. I ordered some 3/4 spec blanks machined from solid PTFE (aka Teflon).

In theory they will… impregnate… the string with a layer of Teflon after a couple throws leading to much spin. Because of that they would in theory also eventually wear down after some undetermined amount of use.

If they wear down crazy fast or whatever they won’t end up in the shop so it’s gonna be some R&D first.

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**Author:** ![rkalajian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rkalajian/32/672584_2.png) [@rkalajian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rkalajian)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/421 "2025-11-21T13:42:06Z")

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Now I’m wondering how slippery a Teflon-coated Throw-Yo Ink or Detergent would be…

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