# Return Bottoms aka Sickburn Yo-Yo Workshop News and Updates **URL:** \ **Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\ **Created:** [July 25, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149 "2025-07-25T20:50:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Xanadu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xanadu/32/84910_2.png) [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/362 "2025-10-30T15:05:25Z")
![IMG_6024](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/9/5/195413e8c712f4f5623b5111fb6961c2c4169aca.gif) ---
**Author:** ![jeffbenit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jeffbenit/32/934_2.png) [@jeffbenit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jeffbenit)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/363 "2025-10-30T15:20:04Z")
![cat-cat-math](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/8/c/c8c29083daf11841794cf657c7ce483d28a25972.gif) ---
**Author:** ![MinerJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/minerj/32/629515_2.png) [@MinerJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MinerJ)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/364 "2025-10-30T15:39:20Z")
Yeah, a super low quote on a notoriously difficult material just screamed an estimator that’s clueless about machining difficult materials. That it turned out to be an AI bid is kinda hilarious, but also a bit tragic. ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/365 "2025-10-30T15:50:16Z")
Thoughts on sending the good one from previous run so they can see what you are wanting? ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/366 "2025-10-30T15:52:59Z")
Idk if I would even risk sending the good one I doubt they will get it back… maybe if it was a small local shop or someone Andy knew but a big business that’s gonna get lost or added to the scrap bucket after being “seen” ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/367 "2025-10-30T16:21:31Z")
Definitely a risk ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/368 "2025-10-30T16:44:07Z")
Yeah. The shop has my file with the design. That should be enough for them to tell these are off. You don’t even need to measure to tell. They are all for the most part correct on one side (left here) and whacky af on the other side. I don’t need a Zeiss measurement doohickey to tell these are bad. :joy: ![IMG_0855](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/2/c/e2c7e842ebe06c31dfdaaf4a3a321f5e2b09efc1.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![jeffbenit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jeffbenit/32/934_2.png) [@jeffbenit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jeffbenit)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/369 "2025-10-30T16:52:22Z")
Dang It’s really off! ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/370 "2025-10-30T18:22:54Z")
Yeah every one you’ve shown has had at least one half that looks very wonky ---
**Author:** ![rkalajian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rkalajian/32/672584_2.png) [@rkalajian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rkalajian)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/371 "2025-10-30T18:29:43Z")
The v1 looked to be made so well! ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/372 "2025-10-30T19:04:43Z")
Yeah it was made by a different shop that raised prices by a lot after the prototype was made. A lot higher. We will see, I may go back to them or use my new machine shop and just do a very small run and have them be a more expensive end product. ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/373 "2025-10-30T23:31:48Z")
Got the no jive axles. They did not bead blast them. Facepalm.png Gonna see if I can do it locally when I’m not sick. Play is pretty good a little more slippy than I want due to the lack of blasting. Extra tension can manage it for the most part though. ![IMG_0873](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/8/8/088b33ad3315757ed847b4ab2f76b1fc3d2ef618.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![SlowThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowthrow/32/307451_2.png) [@SlowThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowThrow)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/374 "2025-10-30T23:51:24Z")
lol gotta love it ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2025, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/375 "2025-10-31T00:03:59Z")
Yes these are from the same place that demolished the caramels. At least these are made to spec and look good other than the lack of surface finishing. ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2025, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/376 "2025-10-31T01:00:27Z")
Still excited ---
**Author:** ![Son-of-Morris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/son-of-morris/32/250533_2.png) [@Son-of-Morris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Son-of-Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/377 "2025-10-31T01:04:37Z")
Same, better near-term outlook at least as well! ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2025, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/378 "2025-10-31T02:59:42Z")
The shop said they wanted me to mail all the caramels to them for inspection since they couldn’t tell what was wrong with them from the photos. Which is honestly impressive, not sure how you could miss it. Out of curiosity I sent my new shop that is doing the pads and brass prototypes a picture to see if they could spot the problem. Immediately received this back. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/c/d/4cd0b59d8fa49f0a37a48385580195b0e3307fd5.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![SlowThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowthrow/32/307451_2.png) [@SlowThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowThrow)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2025, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/379 "2025-10-31T03:27:45Z")
Original shop be like: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/d/5/5d5a775ac20f6aa5178c75614db4475a4ba5460b.gif) One sides round and the others even more rounder, what’s wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2025, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/380 "2025-10-31T06:29:28Z")
It yoyo shape? What problem? Lol It’s so weird that everyone has a notably okay half and a bad half ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2025, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/381 "2025-10-31T06:46:34Z")
I suspect that they turned the good half and then struggled with clamping the machined half steady while they did the next half. That’s my theory. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149.md?page=18) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149.md?page=20)