# Return Bottoms aka Sickburn Yo-Yo Workshop News and Updates **URL:** \ **Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\ **Created:** [July 25, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149 "2025-07-25T20:50:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/322 "2025-10-28T05:42:51Z")
That’s fair. Customs has finally released the no jive axles and they should be here later in the week. ---
**Author:** ![jeffbenit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jeffbenit/32/934_2.png) [@jeffbenit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jeffbenit)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/323 "2025-10-28T09:04:06Z")
I am so in! Those look sick!:fire::fire::fire: Get well Soon!! ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/324 "2025-10-28T11:25:02Z")
If someone ever gave me a free No Jive I’d be super stoked to try out those axles in it…🤣🤣🤣 kidding except that I don’t have a No Jive. I know. I know. Those 3/4 Cs look absolutely amazing. ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/325 "2025-10-28T16:31:34Z")
I have acquired a new trademark: Return Bottoms™ I also own the .com to go with it. :joy: one word no hyphens. ![IMG_0853](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/4/b/b4bfe1fec58fe91835c193330b39e4872222f35d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/326 "2025-10-28T17:14:49Z")
Slowly becoming my favorite brand while becoming a brand lol ---
**Author:** ![Son-of-Morris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/son-of-morris/32/250533_2.png) [@Son-of-Morris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Son-of-Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/327 "2025-10-28T17:35:58Z")
Remember all us little guys when you’re a star. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/328 "2025-10-28T17:43:36Z")
Shoot…. I forgot who I was a long time ago. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![rkalajian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rkalajian/32/672584_2.png) [@rkalajian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rkalajian)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/329 "2025-10-28T17:56:14Z")
I love it! ---
**Author:** ![Lido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lido/32/173650_2.png) [@Lido](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lido)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/330 "2025-10-28T18:40:10Z")
Apt merch idea: elastic suspenders. ---
**Author:** ![Cdl12b](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cdl12b/32/659678_2.png) [@Cdl12b](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cdl12b)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/331 "2025-10-28T18:58:48Z")
Now you have to make a yoyo with the profile and cup inverted ---
**Author:** ![rkalajian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rkalajian/32/672584_2.png) [@rkalajian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rkalajian)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/332 "2025-10-28T19:40:06Z")
Two halves that make a ball, with bearings on opposite sides and a split string. ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/333 "2025-10-28T23:49:31Z")
Well the caramels were delivered but the majority of the ones I’ve checked so far look… not good. One half on each side of about half the ones I checked looks melted or mushy. They also didn’t bead blast between the gaps in any of them so it’s smooth and slippery in there. I can’t get my calipers into the gap but suspect it isn’t correct either so I’m 3d printing some gap measuring tools (flat sticks at specific thicknesses) to check the gaps. Once I’m feeling a little better I’m gonna have to sort them by gap and mush factor and contact the shop because this just isn’t acceptable. ![IMG_0856](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/6/9/569a778ad6e7723b84f00c5efa94951fdf973cf3.jpeg) ![IMG_0854](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/6/d/46dfe0a1dbb215cc88e9df98bc08bb3831d66434.jpeg) ![IMG_0855](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/2/c/e2c7e842ebe06c31dfdaaf4a3a321f5e2b09efc1.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![SlowThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowthrow/32/307451_2.png) [@SlowThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowThrow)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/334 "2025-10-29T00:33:39Z")
I would classify that as a “YoYo shaped object” tbh ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/335 "2025-10-29T00:42:10Z")
It is vaguely yo-yo shaped. Honestly for cnc machine run parts they are wild because there is not a lot of consistency here. They look like somebody hand turned them all, each one a bit different than the others. ---
**Author:** ![Son-of-Morris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/son-of-morris/32/250533_2.png) [@Son-of-Morris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Son-of-Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/336 "2025-10-29T00:45:36Z")
Well that’s sad, have been looking forward to these, I hope they will make it right though! We have patience. 🙂 They’re the “Old Caramels from Grandma’s Cookie Tin of Treats and Sewing Equipment” ---
**Author:** ![SlowThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowthrow/32/307451_2.png) [@SlowThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowThrow)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/337 "2025-10-29T00:49:57Z")
Considering the comments about needing special tooling, it very well could have been some guy doing it by hand with a sharpened screwdriver and a wood lathe ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/338 "2025-10-29T01:24:35Z")
Aesthetics aside, if they play good, I’m down. Well, even if they didn’t play good, I’m down, I’ll figure it out lol ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/339 "2025-10-29T01:31:49Z")
The play is okay ish. So they didn’t bead blast the inside so it is a glass smooth axle. Some strings play well, Throw Yo Tincture double looped, a random rayon blend I had double looped. Cotton strings even double looped are completely unresponsive. This is also why I’m suspecting they may have messed the gap up and I have to go measure all 100 gaps. Visibly I can just look at any two random ones I grab and see the gap is vary different between them. So the consistency is not there. ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/340 "2025-10-29T04:59:50Z")
I don’t think I even have the heart to unwrap these all. Each one I unpack is worse. Bulbous ![IMG_0859](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/c/d/ccde22d12401331e404ca28a766bb6cef84ea8bd.jpeg) Misshapen ![IMG_0863](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/f/4/8f412d7ad1506c80000ef1e6177bb0c57320a8f2.jpeg) shanked ![IMG_0865](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/3/d/13d2d4c186256f7e63335be40f81ce009001d43b.jpeg) Mutilated ![IMG_0860](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/a/f/3afeeee73dc0ba77bade41faf5e0982c8f136ba0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/341 "2025-10-29T05:31:43Z")
I wish they had done better for you, so sorry it didn’t go well. I do hope the manufacturer rectifies in some way [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149.md?page=16) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149.md?page=18)