# Return Bottoms aka Sickburn Yo-Yo Workshop News and Updates **URL:** \ **Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\ **Created:** [July 25, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149 "2025-07-25T20:50:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Cdl12b](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cdl12b/32/659678_2.png) [@Cdl12b](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cdl12b)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/301 "2025-10-22T15:56:56Z")
With the 30mm diameter at the current 53-54g range, it would most likely feel hard to maneuver and like a brick when throw. Though, you would definitely have to sacrifice a good bit of the already low spin time and stability to reduce this, so the tradeoff may not be worth it ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/302 "2025-10-22T17:49:20Z")
Sounds great. My plan is to make them available on my shop for my cost for makers to use, but probably in like a pack so that I’m not selling 10 cents at a time or something lol. ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/303 "2025-10-22T17:55:44Z")
The cost and tradeoffs of making a stupid tiny yoyo 🤣 Ideally I’m going to have it play stall forward so I’m hoping the curve of the 0a style opening throw helps offset some of the weight. 🤞 ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/304 "2025-10-22T17:58:45Z")
I appreciate the extra insight! This is probably why at least a dozen shops ghosted me after reviewing the design lol. ---
**Author:** ![Pun1sh3R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pun1sh3r/32/193125_2.png) [@Pun1sh3R](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pun1sh3R)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/305 "2025-10-23T14:42:06Z")
I haven’t seen these in years. Sugar Babies were amazing too. ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/306 "2025-10-23T14:59:51Z")
All of those kind of candies destroy my teeth and would just remove a filling or whatever if I went for them ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/307 "2025-10-23T17:34:35Z")
The no jive axles are currently stuck being held by customs as the description of “yo-yo axle” is apparently insufficient to describe them. Trying to figure out how to remedy this. ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/308 "2025-10-23T17:52:36Z")
Sorry to hear that that didn’t jive with them, hoping it gets cleared up and all goes smooth ---
**Author:** ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/309 "2025-10-23T18:04:15Z")
can you call them spacers? ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/310 "2025-10-23T18:15:44Z")
They are probably trying to decide if they are an industrial part or a toy and can’t figure out what that means to them ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/311 "2025-10-23T18:32:51Z")
Yeah so I used the HTS code **9503.90.0070**. which classifies it as a toy accessory. They are probably staring at 100+ engineering grade parts labeled toy accessory and scratching their heads. ---
**Author:** ![Son-of-Morris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/son-of-morris/32/250533_2.png) [@Son-of-Morris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Son-of-Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/312 "2025-10-23T19:41:31Z")
Just wait until those 10,000 pads are coming, lmao. ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/313 "2025-10-23T19:47:09Z")
Oh no lol. The good news is my new shop is going to be sending everything “DDP Incoterms” which means that they are responsible for paying customs duties, ensuring customs is cleared for export and import, and carrying all risk of loss or issue. So even if customs causes issues I’ll have their team able to handle it all for me. Stuff I’m learning lately that’s fascinating. ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 2:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/314 "2025-10-26T02:43:22Z")
If anyone is curious about the manufacturing process, the pads are being vacuum form molded rather than die cutting. Then they are applying adhesive and punching the middle out. They sent me these after testing the mold. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/4/8/048ad5d7dd64b089fae61d782bf51a41b8eee11c.jpeg) This is averages from testing the first batch. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/3/f/03fe8d8fc708baa140d6426f440a7a14f8423da4.jpeg) And this is a shore rating test to make sure they got that soft squish like some magenta landing pads. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/1/0/4100eecb95abe262342439357c818343849d0515.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Son-of-Morris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/son-of-morris/32/250533_2.png) [@Son-of-Morris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Son-of-Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/315 "2025-10-26T02:47:32Z")
Those are looking like they’re going to be fantastic! ---
**Author:** ![Joe77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/joe77/32/232665_2.png) [@Joe77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Joe77)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 3:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/316 "2025-10-26T03:25:42Z")
I just heard about this ultem yo-yo and read through this thread. I’m all in on this throw! 😍 And that brass throw? Awesome. Great things happening here! (Fun fact: My favorite guitar picks are made out of ultem!) ![IMG_4833](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/c/0/cc08d7dbe75b7fdffde3b40181705c8ea3bce162.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/318 "2025-10-28T02:40:25Z")
The 3/4 spec Ultem blanks got delivered and they do indeed fit the deepest state and other side effect yo-yos. It narrows the gap and makes the deepest state a hair more responsive than the grease bucket. I’m sick though so I’m not opening these up on the shop until I stop coughing and wheezing. Will let y’all know when I’m up for mailbox trips and post them for sale. ![IMG_0846](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/8/1/481e0fb7c0f520b09765bedbd7ad06a6b30a4eaa.jpeg) ![IMG_0850](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/9/e/89ee323f55df7b376d371e7dabb231a57ae8304c.jpeg) ![IMG_0847](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/9/a/59ac277ae75aff62b2b98edcd2d0355fc8964db4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Lydia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lydia/32/623815_2.png) [@Lydia](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lydia)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 2:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/319 "2025-10-28T02:45:36Z")
They sound like they’ll be incredible! Hope you feel better soon! ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/320 "2025-10-28T04:30:12Z")
No worries probably easiest to wait for a few more things to arrive anyway. Feel better. I spent three weeks of being sick and am so over it ---
**Author:** ![Son-of-Morris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/son-of-morris/32/250533_2.png) [@Son-of-Morris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Son-of-Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/321 "2025-10-28T05:10:41Z")
Awwwww yeah! Hope you feel better soon though, we’ve got some creeping crud going around the house ourself. Womp womp. 🥲 [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149.md?page=17)