# Return Bottoms aka Sickburn Yo-Yo Workshop News and Updates **URL:** \ **Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\ **Created:** [July 25, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149 "2025-07-25T20:50:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Lido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lido/32/173650_2.png) [@Lido](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lido)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/281 "2025-10-21T19:32:38Z")
To quote my third grader, “the power of ‘yet.’” ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/282 "2025-10-21T19:45:17Z")
Well now Andy corners the market in mr85 based yoyo pads and maybe now mark has a new shop for the next weird mr85 thing he wants to do lol ---
**Author:** ![SlowThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowthrow/32/307451_2.png) [@SlowThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowThrow)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/283 "2025-10-21T19:45:23Z")
I, for one, accept our new MR85 overlords ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/284 "2025-10-21T20:23:07Z")
For context from this shop the RSO style pads it’s $200 for 200 pads $300 for 3,000 pads $400 for 10,000 pads The standard somewhat firmer pads from the factory Mark with MK1 uses had previously told him something like a 1000 pad minimum for a custom order but they seem to have changed that policy. The rep told me 20,000 pad minimum order for $1000 So for custom pads this is honestly the better deal. Plus the pads are in high demand from makers, folks like me, Pyro, and Keith. I figure at least some folks in the maker community will be happy to take some pads off my hands at cost. ---
**Author:** ![Upmanyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e68b1a/32.png) [@Upmanyu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Upmanyu)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/285 "2025-10-21T20:52:23Z")
Okay!! Honesty sounds a lot better than I thought haha! ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/286 "2025-10-22T03:52:20Z")
There was some interest so here are some renders of the first brass proto. It’s a modified version of the EDC, calling it the RIP (Rest in Pocket). It will also be a one piece fixed axle. It’s very small (a little bigger than a quarter) 30mm diameter, 15mm width, weight should come in around 53-54 grams. The gap is only 2mm to handle the more slippery nature of metal axles, and to accommodate thinner string. ![RIP Angle](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/b/f/3bfd2b39f09aa83e642fcf2bf53f4ef32f1b846a.jpeg) ![RIP Gap](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/5/b/45bfbf840f6fc5286192cd6b7fe93fdf459d43d1.jpeg) ![RIP Face.PNG](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/5/2/452a71068d421e51438237b43aaadcfb1df2d00e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/287 "2025-10-22T03:53:48Z")
Box for the RIP will be a 3d printed casket. ![Screenshot 2025-10-21 at 8.53.17 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/e/a/6ea980f87ae8b6b01e1378164487ab40d75ce0a0.png) ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/288 "2025-10-22T04:07:06Z")
Renders of the second brass design. This is The Pocket Watch. It’s 38 mm diameter, 15 mm wide. 2.3 mm gap, MR85 bearing. RBC style pads but RSO landing pad shore. Schmoove moat. No deets on packaging, there might a clock engraving, this one is a ways out from production comparatively. Both will likely be very small runs. (40ish units to guess). Going beyond protos will depend on if I make back at least what I spent or close to it on the EDC lol. ![Schmoove.PNG](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/4/3/a43a4ed2f22633343175734d720a594ec7fffef9.jpeg) ![Pocket Watch face](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/7/0/1701e95ac8850ecce778ced31193fb1c21b57d6e.jpeg) ![Pocket Watch Angle.PNG](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/7/6/276a8278634a5ee9bcf11ab24c32a1ebb3993446.jpeg) ![Pocket Watch Gap](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/b/6/3b6be4a2cc96ba131a6fec7b07f272c10afd3d11.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![CannibalCricket](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cannibalcricket/32/665098_2.png) [@CannibalCricket](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CannibalCricket)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/289 "2025-10-22T04:21:11Z")
![copyImage](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/8/d/58d8409f9ba4737109430e0d37b3ac435989eac2.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/290 "2025-10-22T09:38:17Z")
The fact that you sent these designs to shops and got puzzled and confused reply’s only makes me want one more ---
**Author:** ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/291 "2025-10-22T13:03:29Z")
> [@Upmanyu](#): > > single digit yoyo models made for MR85 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/6/8/7685618460f9b876a71bbc40aa8188b5d86fec67.gif "Im Doing My Part Serious GIF - Im Doing My Part Serious Stare - Discover &...") ---
**Author:** ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/292 "2025-10-22T13:05:51Z")
> [@AudreySickburn](#): > > No deets on packaging, there might a clock engraving, this one is a ways out from production comparatively. I mean, the obvious answer would be a hinged clamshell… ---
**Author:** ![rkalajian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rkalajian/32/672584_2.png) [@rkalajian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rkalajian)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/293 "2025-10-22T13:25:12Z")
You’re killing me with both how wild these throws are AND their packaging! ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/294 "2025-10-22T13:31:42Z")
> [@Captrogers](#): > > The fact that you sent these designs to shops and got puzzled and confused reply’s only makes me want one more Here are a few replies I saved. Shop from Mexico that tried to make one. Their state of the art equipment can’t handle a 2mm gap. ![IMG_0809](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/9/5/e9531916d2f248b52284f96c3576202a0d3cd465.jpeg) A shop from the US that noped. ![IMG_0808](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/0/b/b0be2669c9175e25e0c57357619d5d8fee2c7871.jpeg) This is a shop in China that wouldn’t do a prototype run unless I joined a pyramid scheme and brought them someone else who needed parts machined. ![IMG_0807](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/b/0/6b00a52e87220dee8720736a6cee95f68d8b5a10.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/295 "2025-10-22T13:35:30Z")
> [@TryCatchThrow](#): > > I mean, the obvious answer would be a hinged clamshell… I like the way you think. I haven’t designed anything hinged yet. Could be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/296 "2025-10-22T13:42:12Z")
Oh snap FedEx just notified me that they picked up a 7 kg package in China for me. Looks like the EDC yo-yos will be here before the tariff cutoff. ---
**Author:** ![Son-of-Morris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/son-of-morris/32/250533_2.png) [@Son-of-Morris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Son-of-Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/297 "2025-10-22T13:45:26Z")
Yessss! ---
**Author:** ![Son-of-Morris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/son-of-morris/32/250533_2.png) [@Son-of-Morris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Son-of-Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/298 "2025-10-22T13:45:43Z")
The last one had me dying 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![MinerJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/minerj/32/629515_2.png) [@MinerJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MinerJ)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/299 "2025-10-22T15:49:09Z")
Yeah, having a tiny bit of machine shop experience, I’m not surprised nobody wants to try a 2mm gap. You’d probably need to use a parting tool, and standard parting tools are usually either 2mm or 3mm wide. But, they’re not really designed for that, and the cut ends up being sightly larger than the tool (runout, imperfect alignment, etc.). And beyond that, you’d typically want to make a rough cut and finishing cut on each side/wall, which there’s no room for. With a custom narrower parting tool, it would be more challenging since it wouldn’t be as stiff. ---
**Author:** ![Cdl12b](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cdl12b/32/659678_2.png) [@Cdl12b](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cdl12b)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/300 "2025-10-22T15:49:57Z")
Sounds intriguing. I’ve been struggling with finding RBC pads for projects, so this will be a big help [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149.md?page=16)