# Return Bottoms aka Sickburn Yo-Yo Workshop News and Updates

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**Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\
**Created:** [July 25, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149 "2025-07-25T20:50:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 2:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/241 "2025-10-11T02:54:03Z")

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Not yet! I made the packaging ahead of time because the dimensions between v1 and v2 didn’t change enough to require packaging changes. I’m getting everything set up in advance to save time once I have them.

I should have them in hand by Halloween. Once I get them I need to test strings to pick a preference, and then place a bulk string order, get the strings in, and then start packaging them up.

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**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/242 "2025-10-11T03:49:57Z")

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Welp a surprise 100% bonus tariff was just capslocked out starting Nov 1st. I don’t think it will affect the Every Day Caramel but those no jive axels may double in price.

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**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/243 "2025-10-11T04:03:57Z")

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Yeah first thing I thought was will Andy get the yoyos in on before

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**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/244 "2025-10-11T04:19:12Z")

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The yo-yos are set to ship by the 23rd via FedEx. It’s cutting it close but probably fine.

The 3/4 specs ship by the 24th also via FedEx. Closer call.

The black delrin MR85, half spec, and D blanks already shipped DHL today.

The no jive axles are ship by the 30th. Ain’t no way those are making it on time.

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**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/245 "2025-10-11T04:35:46Z")

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I checked and my US based shop would still be considerably more expensive than just paying the tariffs.

I’ll probably just do something like slightly raise costs and eat half to most of the tariffs myself.

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**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/246 "2025-10-13T15:17:00Z")

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Due to the recent tariff escalation I sent models and drawings for my next yoyo to some local machine shops in my city as well as some shops located in Mexico to inquire about prototyping.

For the few that have gotten back to me it’s been a resounding

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/247 "2025-10-13T17:07:06Z")

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We dont need no stinking bearing

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/248 "2025-10-13T17:31:07Z")

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I’m sorry I had to.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/249 "2025-10-13T19:25:09Z")

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Sorry for the both late and chicken scratch response

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/250 "2025-10-13T19:30:51Z")

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No worries! Fits well within the tolerance of the others we measured!

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**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/251 "2025-10-17T02:55:38Z")

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Delrin MR85s, C-, and D- are in. Testing them out, measuring to make sure they are within tolerance, and packaging them.

Will let folks know when they are posted up in the shop!

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**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/252 "2025-10-17T06:41:38Z")

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Nice I’ll take a bunch of them 🙂

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**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/253 "2025-10-17T20:41:53Z")

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I’ve finished testing these out, I like them. You do have to be a little more careful than with the Ultem ones and not crank down super aggressively or you can shrink the gap a hair by smooshing the edge. They give a long spin time and it’s fun making stuff into fixies.

For the half specs make sure the yoyo really fits a half spec or it will get stuck and you will be sad and scratch it up with pliers removing it, ask me how I know.

MR85, Half Spec C, and 4mm wide D bearing delrin blanks are now live in the shop now at my cost.

I like the irony of making the fancy unresponsive wood yoyo into a fixie.

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**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/254 "2025-10-17T21:21:38Z")

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Instant buy no regrets and can I say the no jive wood sleeve brings me joy to see coming soon

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**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/255 "2025-10-17T21:26:13Z")

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Yes!

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2025, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/256 "2025-10-18T16:25:57Z")

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I might be almost as excited for the no jive sleeves as the actual yoyo I’m making 🤣

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2025, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/257 "2025-10-19T13:41:38Z")

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Heard back from the shop that there will be a delay because 49 out of the 100 yo-yos they machined had to be scrapped. They sent some pictures of example scrapped ones. I have inquired if I can buy the scrapped units at a discount for b grades, we will see what they say. That makes these come even closer to the Nov 1st tariff possibility though.

“Bruised”

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“???” I can’t translate this one lol

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“Chamfer too big”

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2025, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/258 "2025-10-19T13:44:28Z")

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Poor lil guys….

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2025, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/259 "2025-10-19T13:51:17Z")

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PEI is pretty difficult to machine. The machining process introduces internal stress, especially if too much material is taken off too quickly. Ideally the stock is annealed prior to machining, and again either after roughing or periodically during the process after cuts that introduce more internal stress. It’s a large part of why most shops charge a premium to work with it. Looks to me like they’re just trying to machine it as quickly as possible like you’d do with most other materials, and it’s obviously not working out too well.

Edit: I can’t translate what they were trying to say either, but it sure looks like a stress crack.

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2025, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/return-bottoms-aka-sickburn-yo-yo-workshop-news-and-updates/430149/260 "2025-10-19T14:01:58Z")

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> [@MinerJ](#):
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> Edit: I can’t translate what they were trying to say either, but it sure looks like a stress crack.

The proper translation is… “Shmutz”

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