# Responsive yoyo recommendation that fit my needs. (To groove tricks I already learnt and practice making it smoother) **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [November 6, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256 "2019-11-06T11:33:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2019, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/41 "2019-11-08T22:48:03Z")
I just counted. 72 yos and counting on my current wish list. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me! Anyone want to buy my spare kidney? I can live without a liver too, right? ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/42 "2019-11-08T23:24:34Z")
Haha. Ive been yoyoing for a decade and dont have that much in my collection, and i consider myself a collector :joy: ---
**Author:** ![ChefCombo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@ChefCombo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChefCombo)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/43 "2019-11-09T05:03:18Z")
Thank you, @twitch77! Not only am I finding how much I enjoy throwing, but I’m also a collector at heart. A dangerous combination in this hobby, I have a feeling. ---
**Author:** ![ChefCombo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@ChefCombo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChefCombo)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 5:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/44 "2019-11-09T05:06:33Z")
This is indeed helpful. String and lube are next on my list to bundle with my next yoyo purchase. My next question was going to how to use it, but you beat me to the punch! ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/45 "2019-11-09T05:07:33Z")
> [@ChefCombo](#): > > but I’m also a collector at heart. A dangerous combination in this hobby, I have a feeling. haha for sure! 😅 ---
**Author:** ![French](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/french/32/70748_2.png) [@French](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/French)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/46 "2019-11-09T10:58:18Z")
A multi tool/bearing removal tool is nice to have as well. Of course, you could always use needle nose pliers, or the right diameter drill bit, but, I like to keep all my maintenance stuff in one place. Which brings my second suggestion - a small storage container for all the little stuff. I bought a clear one with adjustable dividers from Home Depot for a few dollars. Here is a link to a multi tool: [https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/yoyofactory/products/yoyofactory-multi-tool?\_pos=1&\_sid=5ffd59daa&\_ss=r&variant=18871121796](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/yoyofactory/products/yoyofactory-multi-tool?_pos=1&_sid=5ffd59daa&_ss=r&variant=18871121796) ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/47 "2019-11-09T11:35:49Z")
> [@ChefCombo](#): > > This is indeed helpful. String and lube are next on my list to bundle with my next yoyo purchase. My next question was going to how to use it, but you beat me to the punch! Yeah until you see this video or similar ones like this, it’s really hard to visualise just how little this minimal amount of lube that needs to be used that people talk about. I think it’s easy to think it’s not enough and over lube but seeing videos like this gives you confidence to put just trace amounts and be sure that you have enough. ---
**Author:** ![SirDarverok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9e5f3/32.png) [@SirDarverok](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SirDarverok)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/48 "2019-11-09T11:57:29Z")
Just don’t use lube if you do not mind about a bit of noise. Lube= less spin always ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/49 "2019-11-09T16:44:54Z")
I’m surprised @codinghorror hasn’t popped in to promote the Hyperspin method of cleaning and lubing. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/50 "2019-11-09T22:56:02Z")
Hyperspin™ is the best method!! ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/51 "2019-11-09T23:02:58Z")
How is this done? ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/52 "2019-11-09T23:07:46Z")
Try a search :wink: ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/53 "2019-11-09T23:10:22Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > Try a search [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/8/4/a847708935eaa4d60b2ba12fd4a571e31ce723c1.jpeg "Toysmith Hyper Spin Street Style Yo-Yo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5BJoiuxCCs) ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/54 "2019-11-09T23:13:00Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > Try a search :wink: Ah it’s the method that Throws n Brews uses. cool! ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/55 "2019-11-09T23:15:00Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > Try a search > [@Why you, yes you, should lube your yo-yo bearing](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-you-yes-you-should-lube-your-yo-yo-bearing/291865): > > Before we begin, I’d like to note that this is historically one of the most controversial topics in yo-yoing. Take it from @Tvelto: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoGKRyksrbM&feature=youtu.be&t=12m34s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoGKRyksrbM&feature=youtu.be&t=12m34s) I don’t know why this is a controversial opinion, but it totally is. This is my unpopular [yo-yo] opinion that has gotten more hate than any opinion I’ve ever stated … ever. Yo-yo lube, and lubing your bearings, is essential. Bearing runs smoother, bearing runs quieter. “Oh, my yo-yo is dead s… ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/56 "2019-11-09T23:24:39Z")
Here’s the specifics from the link above… > [@codinghorror](#): > > ## The Hyperspin™ Lubrication method > > Because I am a profoundly lazy man and I like to exert minimum effort for maximum reward, I’ve found that you can remove a fair number of these steps and get equivalent results. > > ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/0/8/d085a081b56da396fa69e6b58e03e0a3e8295527.jpeg) > > All you need to do with my method is unscrew the yo-yo halves: > > - keep the bearing on the yo-yo > - don’t bother removing the shield > - don’t bother cleaning the bearing > > Now > > 1. Put two BIG drops of thin lubricant in the bearing, and flick it with your finger to spread it around inside the bearing. Spin time should now be weak, maybe a few seconds – that means the lubricant is working. > 2. Grab a paper towel and dab the top of the bearing to remove any excess lube. Keep it in hand for the next step. > 3. Use compressed air to spin the bearing on the yo-yo as rapidly as possible – a bunch of excess lubricant will come out as it spins, wipe that away with the paper towel and keep going. > 4. Keep hyperspinning™ the bearing in both directions and wiping away excess lube until you have at least 6 seconds of finger flick spin time; ideally 12+ seconds. > > The advantage of this method is that it’s fast and you don’t need to agonize over how much lube you put in (in fact, more is better with this method), but **you must be _absolutely sure_ to spin out all excess lube!** This also has the benefit of breaking in the bearing, the equivalent of many of hours of play in a few minutes. > > It is possible to have cranky bearings that may need more treatment: > > - If the bearing is extra nasty, sometimes I have to repeat this procedure with two _more_ drops of thin lube to push out whatever gunk is in the bearing, but that is rare. This way you don’t have to take it off the yo-yo, though. > - If the bearing is acting extra weird, I will take it off the yo-yo and soak it thin oil overnight. Then take it out, dab it on a paper towel to remove the excess, and put it on the pliers and use compressed air to spin out excess. ---
**Author:** ![ChefCombo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@ChefCombo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChefCombo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/57 "2019-11-11T14:42:52Z")
I appreciate the welcome and wealth of responses in this thread, @MoonageMin. I think I will eventually make the purchase of an unresponsive metal. What made you go with VTWO? I’ve had recommendations to look at Kuntosh/Kuntosh 5000qv or Legendary Terrarian (though reviews say tilt is hard to manage). ---
**Author:** ![MoonageMin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moonagemin/32/67731_2.png) [@MoonageMin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoonageMin)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/58 "2019-11-11T15:20:41Z")
I started writing a reply, and realised that this thread basically explains all. ^^ I made a thread asking for help and people responded. In the end it came toa short list (Kuntosh/Kuntosh5KQV/Leg Terr included) and it came down to looks. 🙂 [Edit] : Oops forgot the link > [@Haven't thrown since 2007, bring a "back to beginner" up to date during Halloween Sale!](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/havent-thrown-since-2007-bring-a-back-to-beginner-up-to-date-during-halloween-sale/310061/174): > > Hi @codinghorror, I just received a confirmation email that the Ti-Vayder has shipped. Thank you so much again! ---
**Author:** ![ChefCombo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@ChefCombo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChefCombo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/59 "2019-11-11T15:20:48Z")
This is awesome. I love step by step instructions, and I am also inherently lazy! It is exactly what I need. ---
**Author:** ![ChefCombo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@ChefCombo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChefCombo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256/60 "2019-11-11T16:02:23Z")
This is super helpful, thank you. Aside from the fact that you are LIGHTYEARS ahead of me in skill @MoonageMin, we are so similar in buying philosophy and aesthetic. I’m a distinguished gentleman (old) with very little free time - when I pick up my yoyo to practice, I want to love it. I want the specs/performance to make my journey as easy as possible, and I want it to inspire me with its looks. If my kid thinks it looks cool too, then double bonus. I have a feeling that I can’t really go wrong if I’m looking at yoyos in the $70-$100 range. But knowing that the VTWO is a bit more recommended for beginners than say the Kuntosh or Legendary Terrarian is helpful. But thanks to this thread, now I’m looking at the Hummingbird. What is this bi-metal sorcery? And don’t get me started on that Overdrive Draupnir. A bit out of my league, but wow. Gorgeous. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/responsive-yoyo-recommendation-that-fit-my-needs-to-groove-tricks-i-already-learnt-and-practice-making-it-smoother/310256.md?page=4)