# Renaming the trick - Suicide **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [October 1, 2022, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608 "2022-10-01T11:48:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hobby\_master](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobby_master/32/145533_2.png) [@hobby\_master](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobby_master)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/1 "2022-10-01T11:48:30Z")
So ive seen this a few times where people call the trick suicide something different. And ive seen G2 call it a few different things, but i havent seen anything that really catches the feeling correctly. Is this something that is important to people? If it is i would like to suggest the name- _Leap of faith_ Anyone have a good idea what to rename this trick? ---
**Author:** ![AKYOYOMIKE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/akyoyomike/32/286732_2.png) [@AKYOYOMIKE](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AKYOYOMIKE)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/2 "2022-10-01T11:53:57Z")
I like what yotricks did calling it a SLACKACIDE. I’ve felt it was inappropriate or at least insensitive to name it a suicide toss from when first i learned about the element. My vote is continue with slackacide… if you drop you killed the slack… it works. ---
**Author:** ![hobby\_master](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobby_master/32/145533_2.png) [@hobby\_master](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobby_master)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/3 "2022-10-01T11:57:06Z")
I like it ---
**Author:** ![Siggy-06](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/siggy-06/32/182279_2.png) [@Siggy-06](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Siggy-06)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/4 "2022-10-01T12:53:58Z")
Well the trick referred to Jamaican flag, I grew up along with my friends calling it Confederate flag. I still refer to it as Confederate flag because I’m not a sensitive snowflake. And if someone wants to call me out on it, I’m happy to give you a history lesson on the American civil war. No need to rename a yoyo trick… ---
**Author:** ![yophilyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yophilyo/32/92828_2.png) [@yophilyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yophilyo)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/5 "2022-10-01T13:16:15Z")
Never in my life have I heard of it referred to as the confederate flag. Probably because I’m not american. I don’t think it was ever renamed. Just depends on who teaches you it / where you are in the world when you learn it I guess. I’ve had friends call it the Scottish flag too. But I’ve known it as the Jamaican flag since someone taught me it at school during the 90s boom. I know the trick is older than that but I figure who cares Its a boring trick anyway. Anyway back on topic, I like Slackacide also but it still has like “acide” in it. so its still kinda referring to the name suicide. I don’t mind it but if the idea is to move away from the original name then maybe its not far enough? Been trying to think of something short but haven’t come up with anything. I think if the new name is longer it wont catch on as much. Like how the tornado bind got changed to DNA ---
**Author:** ![Siggy-06](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/siggy-06/32/182279_2.png) [@Siggy-06](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Siggy-06)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/6 "2022-10-01T13:26:36Z")
There’s a lot of flag out there with similar design, I guess it depends on what country you’re in or closest to when you learn it. Now personally I’m fine with calling the trick suicide still, but a suggestion I could make for a name substitute would be ‘safety net’ like what trapeze artist use while practicing. Since you’re going from a side mount and a swing over(like a trapeze), safety net could work. ---
**Author:** ![Shapapy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shapapy/32/141199_2.png) [@Shapapy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shapapy)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/7 "2022-10-01T13:39:01Z")
What about “Threading the Needle”? ---
**Author:** ![mable](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mable/32/194074_2.png) [@mable](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mable)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/8 "2022-10-01T14:01:50Z")
This discussion is a little late. I’d say it’s already been firmly renamed to slackicide. As mentioned above yoyo trick names are just whatever people learn them as, and I’d say the vast majority of yoyo players now are learning through the yotricks youtube tutorials. So their terminology is definitely going to be the most commonly used by the newer generations of yoyo players. Can’t say I’m crazy about the name, but I understand the change. I would’ve preferred something boring and generic, yet self-explanatory, like “slack catch” lol. ---
**Author:** ![DapperWooona](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dapperwooona/32/122728_2.png) [@DapperWooona](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DapperWooona)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/10 "2022-10-01T14:50:35Z")
Either way this trick renaming will only be localized to this group, hence it seems like a futile effort–kind of like the Jamaican flag example from earlier in the thread. Different groups will propagate the trick with different names, in the end it makes no sense to confuse new players with one trick having a bunch of regional variances. I personally like the name since it falls in line with the punk roots of throwing from the early 2000’s. ---
**Author:** ![UnluckyOwl53](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/unluckyowl53/32/190567_2.png) [@UnluckyOwl53](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/UnluckyOwl53)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/11 "2022-10-01T14:52:12Z")
I think the name is fine and shouldn’t be changed. A very famous basketball workout is called suicides. A big movie called suicide squad came out fairly recently. I ate some suicide wings the other night. Im sure more things have the name suicide that people dont think twice about. ---
**Author:** ![Siggy-06](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/siggy-06/32/182279_2.png) [@Siggy-06](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Siggy-06)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/12 "2022-10-01T14:53:50Z")
How hot were the wings on a 1-10 scale? ---
**Author:** ![UnluckyOwl53](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/unluckyowl53/32/190567_2.png) [@UnluckyOwl53](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/UnluckyOwl53)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/13 "2022-10-01T14:54:56Z")
6.5 but the damage to my body was 9/10 ---
**Author:** ![DapperWooona](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dapperwooona/32/122728_2.png) [@DapperWooona](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DapperWooona)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/14 "2022-10-01T14:56:04Z")
I think that would be a better name for chopsticks. Speaking of which, let’s talk about how racially insensitive that trick is. My cat’s grandfather is Japanese and he hisses anytime I do a c-stick trick variant, I think it’s affecting his well being and I do not want to trigger him during my throw sessions. ---
**Author:** ![UnluckyOwl53](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/unluckyowl53/32/190567_2.png) [@UnluckyOwl53](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/UnluckyOwl53)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/15 "2022-10-01T14:59:35Z")
do you by chance own an a-rt inhaler? jokes ---
**Author:** ![hobby\_master](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobby_master/32/145533_2.png) [@hobby\_master](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobby_master)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/16 "2022-10-01T15:10:05Z")
Well nothing is going to change if no one changes what they call it. But over time it will take over ---
**Author:** ![DapperWooona](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dapperwooona/32/122728_2.png) [@DapperWooona](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DapperWooona)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/17 "2022-10-01T15:16:35Z")
How’d you know :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_kerber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/erik_kerber/32/7939_2.png) [@Erik\_kerber](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Erik_kerber)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/18 "2022-10-01T15:22:45Z")
Can you give a comparison to the Blazin wings at Buffalo Wild Wings if you have tried them? Also, where could someone acquire these “Suicide Wings” ? As for renaming the trick, I don’t think there is a major need too. Slackicide does have a nice ring to it though, and if YoTricks Is popularizing that name it will take over. I have nothing against a name change, but I’ll most likely always remember it as suicide. It also still shows up as Suicide on the YYE trick list that they send out with their orders. ---
**Author:** ![JDyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jdyo/32/199646_2.png) [@JDyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JDyo)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/20 "2022-10-01T16:31:27Z")
Suicide doors, suicide shifter, Really the only person who has a say in renaming a trick is the inventor and even then if it’s in the nomenclature its too late. ---
**Author:** ![JDyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jdyo/32/199646_2.png) [@JDyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JDyo)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/21 "2022-10-01T16:32:32Z")
thats a shame and why this stuff sucks. ---
**Author:** ![mable](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mable/32/194074_2.png) [@mable](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mable)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608/22 "2022-10-01T16:41:21Z")
This is such a strange dumpster fire thread. I’m genuinely surprised to see this kind of discussion surrounding this. Demonstrators felt weird going to elementary school age kids and having to say phrases like “I’m going to teach you how to do the suicide.” People like Tyler from Recess have stated they like having a new name for this trick. Acting like that isn’t at least a slightly strange phrase is just silly, I feel like you’re all well aware how odd that phrase is even within the context of yoyoing. I don’t think anybody was is offended by a trick being named suicide, but it seems like people are legitimately offended by the idea of people using a different name for it. It’s not that big of a deal, several tricks have already been renamed by tiktok and younger generations. If you don’t like the new name, you don’t have to use it. There’s no yoyo police mandating you _have_ to say slackicide instead of suicide. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/renaming-the-trick-suicide/363608.md?page=2)