# raider or loop720

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/raider-or-loop720/15233>\
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [June 5, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/raider-or-loop720/15233 "2010-06-05T23:08:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![justink1025](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4bbf92/32.png) [@justink1025](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/justink1025)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/raider-or-loop720/15233/1 "2010-06-05T23:08:29Z")

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Hi guys, I want to start looping and found some cheap loop720 and raiders…  
I am trying to decide which one to get. I do not have any thick oil… I know that loop720 dont need any oil but is the raider same?  
Also which one is better for begininer?

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**Author:** ![Yummy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yummy/32/14065_2.png) [@Yummy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yummy)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/raider-or-loop720/15233/2 "2010-06-05T23:14:59Z")

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Raiders need to be modded to make them good loopers. Their gaps are just to big to loop effectively. For a beginner I suggest the Loop 720’s.

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**Author:** ![BuddhaFusion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/buddhafusion/32/465_2.png) [@BuddhaFusion](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BuddhaFusion)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/raider-or-loop720/15233/3 "2010-06-05T23:19:07Z")

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i sugest loop 720 or wait till the loop 900 comes out which has an adjustable gap just amazing

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**Author:** ![Mattylightning](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattylightning/32/205_2.png) [@Mattylightning](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mattylightning)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/raider-or-loop720/15233/4 "2010-06-06T00:06:42Z")

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loop 900

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**Author:** ![justink1025](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4bbf92/32.png) [@justink1025](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/justink1025)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/raider-or-loop720/15233/5 "2010-06-06T01:31:50Z")

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> [@BuddhaFusion](#):
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> i sugest loop 720 or wait till the loop 900 comes out which has an adjustable gap just amazing

The reason I am chosing between these two is because I found them at 10bucks for pair… I thought it was a good price so I wanted to buy one of them, I dont want loop900 until I get more serious because they are 50bucks for pair if they release for the same price they were sold at BAC.  
Thanks for everything guys! I think I am going to get loop720 🙂