# Quotable #3: Light, Stable, Long Spinning, Plays Fast...
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [October 23, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471 "2013-10-23T15:41:38Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@SwissArmyTenor](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SwissArmyTenor)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2013, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/21 "2013-10-23T21:55:44Z")
Maybe have 2 columns here - one for \< $100 and one for \> $100 throws š
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### Author:  [@Yonut](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yonut)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2013, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/22 "2013-10-23T22:42:01Z")
> [@mgiroux77](#):
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> It is a great yoyo. VERY stable and very fast. It spins just great too!! A ton of fun!!
Would it be a good first Japanese metal?
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### Author:  [@mgiroux77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mgiroux77)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2013, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/23 "2013-10-23T22:45:28Z")
> [@Yonut](#):
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> Would it be a good first Japanese metal?
I think so.
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### Author:  [@ArchersAxe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ArchersAxe)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2013, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/24 "2013-10-23T23:17:12Z")
> [@kangawookie](#):
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> TenYoYo Drop Bear
> 63.5grams
I have heard nothing bad about the Drop Bear, ever.
As for an addition, Iād have to chime in with the 2012 ILYY Fury. Contrary to what the YYE Page says, the 2012 version is 3 grams lighter than the original red version. I suspect most of the weight they trimmed off came from the rims because this thing is absolutely perfect. My Werrd Poo, which fits in at 62.1g, feels heavier than it.
If you really donāt want to add the 2012 Fury to the list at ~66.2g, Iād be curious to see what others have to say about the ILYY Greyhound.
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### Author:  [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2013, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/25 "2013-10-23T23:32:58Z")
No love for the sleipnir I see or even better would be the overdrive
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### Author:  [@turtleyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/turtleyo)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2013, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/26 "2013-10-24T00:06:32Z")
The Mayhem is pretty good.
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### Author:  [@Big\_cat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Big_cat)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2013, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/27 "2013-10-24T00:10:04Z")
I donāt think anyone has mentioned the Phenom or Phenomizm yet. Both are incredibly fast, quite stable, and are pretty light. In fact, I found the Phenomizm too fast for my limited skills, and although I absolutely love lighter yoyos, the Phenomizm just didnāt feel right. The Phenom was a tad better, but still didnāt do it for me. I can see why one would like them, but my skills were too far behind the yoyo in the case of these two brothers.
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### Author:  [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2013, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/28 "2013-10-24T01:05:51Z")
M10ā¦ Wrathā¦ Draupnir. Those are the three major ones that come to mind.
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### Author:  [@vicvonboom](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vicvonboom)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2013, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/29 "2013-10-24T01:14:14Z")
Monkeyfinger Gelada is a great throw. 63g I believe.
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### Author:  [@the\_dope\_chaud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/the_dope_chaud)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2013, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/30 "2013-10-24T02:25:18Z")
Code 1 with ultralites?
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### Author:  [@Totalartist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Totalartist)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2013, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/31 "2013-10-24T06:21:41Z")
> [@kangawookie](#):
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> TenYoYo Drop Bear
> 63.5grams
You knowā¦ you are abolutely right. I own one, but it is a YoyoExpert edition in my collector case, so I donāt throw it. But, when I first got it in the mail from another collector, I threw it once just to see what it was like. I remember thinking it was a very nice yo-yo, stable, and nice spin, but a bit too light for my taste. I didnāt check it for speed and whip it around a lot, just wanted to give it one throw real quick. I should revisit that one, for sure.
The funny thing is, some of these 63 gram throws feel light, and some not so much. The Drop Bear had nice qualities but definitely felt light. I will also revisit the X3 Aware when I get home. That is another light throw. I usually buy light throws as collectors, not to play them, so I rarely fully get to know them. I donāt remember what I thought of the X3ās stability, spin and speed. I remember I thought it was cool for someone who likes light yo-yos.
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### Author:  [@Midlifeyoyoman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Midlifeyoyoman)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2013, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/32 "2013-10-24T06:42:17Z")
Just so Iām clear lol this is geared more for these light throws that play anything but light correct? I donāt think a light attribute directly correlates with fast (which fast isnāt your top priority but still thrown in since such a throw with all the other criteria would exhibit a fast throw).
Did that make sense?
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### Author:  [@Totalartist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Totalartist)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2013, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/33 "2013-10-24T06:46:55Z")
> [@Midlifeyoyoman](#):
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> Just so Iām clear lol this is geared more for these light throws that play anything but light correct? I donāt think a light attribute directly correlates with fast (which fast isnāt your top priority but still thrown in since such a throw with all the other criteria would exhibit a fast throw).
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> Did that make sense?
You have the right idea MLYYM. The āspecsā will be lightā¦say 63g, but it will not feel too light and have great stability and spin. Iām mostly looking for throws I was ignoring due to specs, that I might actually like due to stability, spin and the fact that they donāt play too light after all. :wink: Iām not to concerned about speed, but if it plays fast, it keeps things interesting. š
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### Author:  [@Midlifeyoyoman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Midlifeyoyoman)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2013, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/34 "2013-10-24T06:50:26Z")
> [@TotalArtist](#):
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> You have the right idea MLYYM. The āspecsā will be lightā¦say 63g, but it will not feel too light and have great stability and spin. Iām mostly looking for throws I was ignoring due to specs, that I might actually like due to stability, spin and the fact that they donāt play too light after all. :wink: Iām not to concerned about speed, but if it plays fast, it keeps things interesting. š
Ok. Just wanted to get that out in the open as I donāt think everyone understood the whole concept.
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### Author:  [@Totalartist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Totalartist)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2013, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/35 "2013-10-24T13:28:14Z")
> [@Midlifeyoyoman](#):
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> Ok. Just wanted to get that out in the open as I donāt think everyone understood the whole concept.
Thanks MLYYM. I probably confused myself too, because I want to open my mind to the lighter stuff, but not quite all of it just yet. When learning tricks, I find that some tricks are easier to learn with a heavier throw, and others with a lighter throw. Shape, width everything plays a part, but also, itās nice to have a variety because learning never gets old. Sometimes just picking up a different yo-yo can encourage me to play longer, because it feels different. But, Iād hate to lose that stability and spin no matter what Iām throwing. While Iām learning, I sometimes rotate through five or six different yo-yos. Once I get confident with the trick, I can land it on all of them equally well.
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### Author:  [@Hudakjoe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hudakjoe)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/36 "2013-10-24T13:40:06Z")
Have you thought about the Yelets?
Itās 63.9 grams and I feel like it plays nice and heavy for its size and weight, plenty of rim weight and spin time. I can take it nice and slow and flow but it wants to go fast and be whipped around.
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### Author:  [@Gambit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gambit)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2013, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/37 "2013-10-24T13:44:17Z")
> [@TotalArtist](#):
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> You have the right idea MLYYM. The āspecsā will be lightā¦say 63g, but it will not feel too light and have great stability and spin. Iām mostly looking for throws I was ignoring due to specs, that I might actually like due to stability, spin and the fact that they donāt play too light after all. :wink: Iām not to concerned about speed, but if it plays fast, it keeps things interesting. š
Ahh, I feel I may have misunderstood then. The Krown to me feels far far lighter and bouncier than the weight it actually is, but still has impressive stability and spin. Itās also nice and fast. =)
From the YYE product page:
> [@](#):
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> C3 approached Shinya and asked the question. What do you want in a yo-yo. The answer to him was simple.
> āGood spin time yet light feeling. Horizontal ready." Shinya said.
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> Being one of the top players in the world, Shinya has crystal clear direction about what kind of yoyo he wanted. But for those who understand yo-yo design will know that āGood spin timeā and ālight feelingā are somewhat conflicting ideas. Thatās why during the prototype stage, they spent weeks in the factory to fine tune the design to make sure it has the feeling that Shinya mentioned.
I think that there sums it up nicely. They aimed to make a light feeling but well performing yoyo, and thatās exactly what they accomplished. Iāve personally never played anything that feels like it.
Granted, Iām not saying itāll out-stable or out-spin a 69-70g rim weighted monster, but considering Iām used to lighter throws such as my Supernova lite tilting or spinning out at the drop of a hat, I was very surprised by how stable it was for its (perceived) weight.
Also, it feels like throwing a cloud attached to a string. =P
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### Author:  [@Totalartist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Totalartist)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2013, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/38 "2013-10-24T13:52:02Z")
> [@Hudakjoe](#):
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> Have you thought about the Yelets?
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> Itās 63.9 grams and I feel like it plays nice and heavy for its size and weight, plenty of rim weight and spin time. I can take it nice and slow and flow but it wants to go fast and be whipped around.
I agree with your impression of the Yelets. I liked it when I first threw it, because despite the specs, it plays heavier than expected. But, there is something that turned me off from the Yelets that I cannot pinpoint. I want to say the width, but the Cafe Racer is about the same, and I enjoy that one. Cafe Racer almost got skipped due to the weight. It surprised me though. Strange thing is that the Yelets plays heavier, so I expected to enjoy that more than the Cafe Racer. It might be a shape thing. That throw is a mystery for meā¦but good example.
Andā¦no problem Gambit, itās nice to know how these throws play, even if they donāt have all the elements, just some of them. If you hadnāt posted, I would not know much about the Krown, so it was very helpful. :wink:
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### Author:  [@Gambit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gambit)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/39 "2013-10-24T14:24:21Z")
> [@TotalArtist](#):
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> Andā¦no problem Gambit, itās nice to know how these throws play, even if they donāt have all the elements, just some of them. If you hadnāt posted, I would not know much about the Krown, so it was very helpful. :wink:
Yeh, itās tough because I donāt want to put too fine a point on how much I like a throw or how good I think it is because I wouldnāt want people to buy one off my recommendation and then be dissapointed if it wasnāt really their thing. Peoples hard earned money is at stake so everything should be taken with a pinch of salt.
Apart from the Rally that is. Everyone should buy one of those. š
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### Author:  [@Joe\_Bonkajenko](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Joe_Bonkajenko)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2013, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quotable-3-light-stable-long-spinning-plays-fast/60471/40 "2013-10-24T14:26:41Z")
Monkeyfinger evil to
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