# Quick Question on 7075 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [March 24, 2014, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860 "2014-03-24T03:51:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/1 "2014-03-24T03:51:20Z")
Ok, so a few days ago, I was still banned, but I was reading through a thread about the One Drop Valor. Someone said something about the Valor having a high price point because it is made in the US, out of 7075 aluminum. Others brought up the Pulsefire to counter this argument. Then someone else said the price also included sales through other parties, such as YYE. Now here’s my question, why did no one decide to bring up the Werrd Hour in that thread? It’s made in the US (I think), out of 7075 aluminum, and is sold here and at a few other stores. Yet, it is sold for $60 mint, why is that? ---
**Author:** ![yuki\_onitsura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yuki_onitsura/32/1162_2.png) [@yuki\_onitsura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yuki_onitsura)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/2 "2014-03-24T03:54:56Z")
I think the Werrd Hour is made in Australia where the cost of producing anything is even more expensive than it would be in the states. No idea how Werrd manage to keep the prices down but most of their throws far outperform their pricetags. Yuki ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 4:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/3 "2014-03-24T04:01:49Z")
> [@yuki\_onitsura](#): > > I think the Werrd Hour is made in Australia where the cost of producing anything is even more expensive than it would be in the states. No idea how Werrd manage to keep the prices down but most of their throws far outperform their pricetags. > > Yuki Agreed on the performance part. While polishing yoyos, I’ve gotten the chance to try a few YYR throws, including the Overdrive, Sleipnir, and Dreadnought. What I’ve found is that the Hour performs just as well as these throws, if not better. ---
**Author:** ![N8dogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@N8dogg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/N8dogg)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/4 "2014-03-24T04:33:45Z")
I could be wrong about this, but I know I read somewhere that Werrd’s throws are made in China. My source may have been wrong, but I read that for sure. That could help with the low price. ---
**Author:** ![jbritter3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jbritter3/32/1265_2.png) [@jbritter3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jbritter3)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/5 "2014-03-30T01:45:17Z")
well 7075 costs more as a raw product, not sure by how much tho, it shouldn’t cost much more to machine if any, shouldn’t be more to anodize. To be honest I don’t think 7075 costs much more to be bumped up that much higher than 6061 yoyos. ---
**Author:** ![CaliBuddha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/calibuddha/32/156_2.png) [@CaliBuddha](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CaliBuddha)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/6 "2014-03-30T02:14:53Z")
The material is more expensive and it is harder on the tools that machine it. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoavenger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoavenger/32/884_2.png) [@yoyoavenger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoavenger)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/7 "2014-03-30T02:15:13Z")
Its because Werrd has worker koalas that work for cookies. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/8 "2014-03-30T02:23:39Z")
> [@N8dogg](#): > > I could be wrong about this, but I know I read somewhere that Werrd’s throws are made in China. My source may have been wrong, but I read that for sure. That could help with the low price. Nope, all Australia. Another store gives the location of manufacturing and they all say Australia. Although the Minute says “no” for location, which is kinda suspicious. ---
**Author:** ![jbritter3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jbritter3/32/1265_2.png) [@jbritter3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jbritter3)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 2:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/9 "2014-03-30T02:45:26Z")
> [@MiamiBuddha](#): > > The material is more expensive and it is harder on the tools that machine it. Just wondering on where u are getting that info cuz there’s not much of a difference in hardness and the tools they use can cut much harder metals without a problem. ---
**Author:** ![kyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/df705f/32.png) [@kyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kyo)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/10 "2014-03-30T02:48:32Z")
the cost difference on 7075 is purely hype. The raw material is ‘slightly’ more expensive on average, but not much, and the cost of machining is the same. and yes, I’m sure… I was the first person that I’m aware of to use it on yo-yos, and it was -entirely- because it happens to polish to a very high shine very easily. Kyle ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/11 "2014-03-30T02:50:06Z")
> [@kyo](#): > > the cost difference on 7075 is purely hype. > > The raw material is ‘slightly’ more expensive on average, but not much, and the cost of machining is the same. > > and yes, I’m sure… I was the first person that I’m aware of to use it on yo-yos, and it was -entirely- because it happens to polish to a very high shine very easily. > > Kyle Hmm, haven’t found it to be any easier to polish, will look more closely next time! I have found that the polish lasts longer though. ---
**Author:** ![jbritter3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jbritter3/32/1265_2.png) [@jbritter3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jbritter3)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/12 "2014-03-30T02:52:57Z")
> [@kyo](#): > > the cost difference on 7075 is purely hype. > > The raw material is ‘slightly’ more expensive on average, but not much, and the cost of machining is the same. > > and yes, I’m sure… I was the first person that I’m aware of to use it on yo-yos, and it was -entirely- because it happens to polish to a very high shine very easily. > > Kyle I tried looking up the average costs. Do u happen to know what the comparison is? Thanks for backing me up :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Pajamas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pajamas/32/1486_2.png) [@Pajamas](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pajamas)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/13 "2014-03-30T03:13:27Z")
Found a gunsmithing forum from 2012 and they were saying avg. prices for 7075 was 2-3x as much in small quantities, and found this from a site about machining model engines. > [@](#): > > 6061 is the most available in almost any shape. It is also the least expensive. It is easy to anodize with consistent colors, even in a crude home anodizing set up. It can be easily welded. > > 2024 is much higher strength. It costs about 80 percent more than 6061. Machines very nice as it had a very crisp chip. The high copper content makes it harder to anodize and is difficult to weld. Yield and ultimate strength much higher than 6061. > > 7075 is the highest strength common alum alloy. Yield and ultimate strengths almost double of 6061. The strength falls off at elevated temperatures so is not a good choice for high performance pistons in model engines. Machines very nice, similar to 2024. More difficult to anodize than 6061, but not as difficult as 2024. Not good for welding. Cost is about double of 6061. ---
**Author:** ![kyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/df705f/32.png) [@kyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kyo)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/14 "2014-03-30T03:27:17Z")
I couldn’t quote you exact figures on large quantities (which is how shops buy it). In small bits roughly double as somebody mentioned above, in large quantities it isn’t as huge a gap. 6061 is the most commonly used alloy for everything, so the costs drop a bit on small quantities because everybody already stocks tons of it. Don’t think for a second that material cost has much to do with production cost however, it’s a small fraction of your expenses (when using aluminum… exotic materials change things). Kyle ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/15 "2014-03-30T04:06:27Z")
> [@jbritter3](#): > > Just wondering on where u are getting that info cuz there’s not much of a difference in hardness and the tools they use can cut much harder metals without a problem. The tools will wear faster, maybe not by much, but still faster. ---
**Author:** ![Fire\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ccd318/32.png) [@Fire\_Penguin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Fire_Penguin)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/16 "2014-03-30T06:18:39Z")
> [@yoyospirit](#): > > Ok, so a few days ago, I was still banned, but I was reading through a thread about the One Drop Valor. Someone said something about the Valor having a high price point because it is made in the US, out of 7075 aluminum. Others brought up the Pulsefire to counter this argument. Then someone else said the price also included sales through other parties, such as YYE. Now here’s my question, why did no one decide to bring up the Werrd Hour in that thread? It’s made in the US (I think), out of 7075 aluminum, and is sold here and at a few other stores. Yet, it is sold for $60 mint, why is that? lol you saw that thread. Basically what some parts of YYE boils down to. ---
**Author:** ![jbritter3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jbritter3/32/1265_2.png) [@jbritter3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jbritter3)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/17 "2014-03-30T12:58:53Z")
> [@Yoyo](#): > > The tools will wear faster, maybe not by much, but still faster. Doesn’t seem like it’d be a noticible amount. I’m about to talk to a machinist from triangle precision industries. ---
**Author:** ![CaliBuddha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/calibuddha/32/156_2.png) [@CaliBuddha](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CaliBuddha)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/quick-question-on-7075/64860/18 "2014-03-30T13:26:01Z")
I’ve worked in a machine shop machining titanium, stainless, 6061 and 7075. Sure its not a large difference but its noticeable.