# Question about my take apart axle system

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**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [April 20, 2020, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/question-about-my-take-apart-axle-system/318589 "2020-04-20T05:37:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/question-about-my-take-apart-axle-system/318589/41 "2020-04-21T22:50:11Z")

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> [@fatguysnacks247](#):
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> by creating the fine tuning and take apart system, you’ve created a problem that only needs one permanent solution.

I’ve been thinking the same thing. Last night I decided to scrap the magnet idea, simply because I only want one method of securing the axle, not two. I don’t want to create an 8 legged dog here, which is what I have done with the need to use both magnets and plumbers tape.

Plumbers tape is also rubbish stuff to work with as I decided when I was using it to secure the axle in a KNack I made. It’s messy and difficult to manipulate. It isn’t a product created for using with any precision. Plumbers jusy bung it on haphazardly to threads which works great in that circumstance, but not with carefully wrapping around an axle.

Adding 6.2g of weight with the magnets is just unacceptable, I have decided. That is far too much weight. The magnetic KNack I made yesterday would have been a perfect 52g without the magnets which transformed it into a 58.4g beast. No thanks.

Another big problem is the precision at which I need to turn the axles for them to have a firm press fit, but not so firm that it can’t be installed without strain to the axle. I found that if I turned it .005 on a mm too large or too small, it wouldn’t fit properly. This sort of margain of error with wood is too difficult to work with.

This brings me to my latest idea. I had already considered embedding O rings in the axle to stop it slipping, but I think that would likely be all I need. It will add far less weight, secure it firmly and won’t require me to turn axles with such extreme precision.

Thanks for chiming in @fatguysnacks247

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/question-about-my-take-apart-axle-system/318589/42 "2020-04-21T23:15:05Z")

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you are welcome @anon5341354.

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**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/question-about-my-take-apart-axle-system/318589/43 "2020-04-22T00:33:49Z")

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> [@anon5341354](#):
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> This brings me to my latest idea. I had already considered embedding O rings in the axle to stop it slipping, but I think that would likely be all I need. It will add far less weight, secure it firmly and won’t require me to turn axles with such extreme precision.
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> Thanks for chiming in @fatguysnacks247

I almost asked about that very thing in my last post! Can’t wait to see if it works.

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**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/question-about-my-take-apart-axle-system/318589/44 "2020-04-22T01:39:44Z")

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> [@anon5341354](#):
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> This brings me to my latest idea. I had already considered embedding O rings in the axle to stop it slipping, but I think that would likely be all I need.

I’m skeptical if this will work for two reasons. First is I wonder how long of a shelf life rubber o rings have when sandwiched between wood. This may not end up being a problem at all but it’ll take time to tell. The second reason I think is more substantial. When you throw a butterfly yoyo and it returns to your hand your throw finger lands in the gap. With magnets the yoyo halves will have a force pulling them in, with rings they won’t. I think the yoyo will slowly open its gap if you don’t push the halves together after every catch. 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/question-about-my-take-apart-axle-system/318589/45 "2020-04-22T02:15:09Z")

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Unless there is a groove in the yoyo halves as well?

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/question-about-my-take-apart-axle-system/318589/46 "2020-04-22T02:37:16Z")

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That would work I think. I was thinking only the axle portion would have a groove. Might be tougher to turn though.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/question-about-my-take-apart-axle-system/318589/47 "2020-04-22T03:52:53Z")

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Early testing is promising. It looks like it might work. I need to go down to the hardware store now to buy some more dowel and O rings.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/question-about-my-take-apart-axle-system/318589/48 "2020-04-22T15:24:32Z")

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The O ring system will work to make a yoyo stay together, still allows a little play and is not precise enough.

I think it’s time to give up. I can think of no way to make my current models take-apart without there being seroius compromises in precision or performance.

I’m actually thinking about taking a break from making yoyos for a while. This has got me pretty bummed.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/question-about-my-take-apart-axle-system/318589/49 "2020-04-22T19:10:47Z")

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I have not failed. I’ve just found 10,000 ways that won’t work.

[Thomas A. Edison](https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/thomas-a-edison-quotes)

Giving up is not in your blood.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/question-about-my-take-apart-axle-system/318589/50 "2020-04-24T00:13:08Z")

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> [@Show some wooden yoyos you've made](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/show-some-wooden-yoyos-youve-made/84381/755):
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> I made this Skinflint today. The first completely successful take-apart design I have made. If anyone is interested I can explain in detail what I’ve done and how it differs from the other designs out there.

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/question-about-my-take-apart-axle-system/318589/51 "2020-04-24T01:55:28Z")

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Looks great! Glad you pressed on and found a solution you’re happy with.

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