# Qeustion **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [June 3, 2011, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/qeustion/26909 "2011-06-03T00:44:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![yoyofan25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/94ad74/32.png) [@yoyofan25](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofan25)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/qeustion/26909/1 "2011-06-03T00:44:12Z")
is the raptor a good first metal and kinda first real yoyo i have a 10 dollar yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![yoyojohn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojohn/32/7911_2.png) [@yoyojohn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojohn)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/qeustion/26909/2 "2011-06-03T01:16:16Z")
depends,whts your mast advanced trick? ---
**Author:** ![yoyofan25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/94ad74/32.png) [@yoyofan25](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofan25)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/qeustion/26909/3 "2011-06-03T01:20:53Z")
split the atom ---
**Author:** ![Swatnoodle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/swatnoodle/32/855_2.png) [@Swatnoodle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Swatnoodle)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/qeustion/26909/4 "2011-06-03T04:11:07Z")
Yeah it’s good. the only reason I don’t really like it is because it’s not undersized and plastic caps on metal yoyo feels and looks weird for me. Also, if you take off caps for tgumb grinds, it is really light, so it plays very different. It comes with some extra stuff though. Its a good beginner. Imo dark magic 2 is better because it looks cooler and come with responsive and unresponsive bearing ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/qeustion/26909/5 "2011-06-03T04:14:07Z")
> [@Swatnoodle](#): > > Yeah it’s good. the only reason I don’t really like it is because it’s not undersized and plastic caps on metal yoyo feels and looks weird for me. Also, if you take off caps for tgumb grinds, it is really light, so it plays very different. It comes with some extra stuff though. Its a good beginner. Imo dark magic 2 is better because it looks cooler and come with responsive and unresponsive bearing I must say, I agree. Although the thread is about best metal for the price, the DMII will always be a nice throw. Although in my experience, I love the raptor, and need to get one that I can keep a hold of. ---
**Author:** ![skeletonboy333](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@skeletonboy333](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skeletonboy333)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/qeustion/26909/6 "2011-06-03T05:53:29Z")
I love my Raptor. It’s a great throw, as long as you can bind, it’s perfect. ---
**Author:** ![yoyofan25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/94ad74/32.png) [@yoyofan25](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofan25)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/qeustion/26909/7 "2011-06-03T12:11:14Z")
I can bind so either on would be good. ---
**Author:** ![mhess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/58f4c7/32.png) [@mhess](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mhess)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/qeustion/26909/8 "2011-06-03T20:45:42Z")
I would say raptor. I have it, it is my second yoyo, and I love it. I would say that if you have a 10$ plastic, then almost any metal feels much better. I got it when I started the advanced section. DMII seems good, or the dv888. I have heard great things about both of those. I plan to get the DMII, then the dv888, and test them. Many people ask for what should be their second yoyo, and those 3 pop up the most. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DByoyoer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dbyoyoer/32/852_2.png) [@DByoyoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DByoyoer)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/qeustion/26909/9 "2011-06-04T19:37:52Z")
The raptor is a great choice.