# Protostar or PGM2
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation
**Created:** [June 12, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511 "2010-06-12T23:48:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 16
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### Author:  [@EvanW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EvanW)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511/1 "2010-06-12T23:48:00Z")
I have been thinking of moving up from my YYJ Journey (I would like a longer spinning yoyo) and I have narrowed it down to the Protostar and the PGM2. I would like hubstacks on a yoyo but it is not absolutely necessary, so my question is : Does the PGM2 play well enough to take it over the Protostar just for the hubstacks?
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### Author:  [@Vivo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Vivo)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2010, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511/2 "2010-06-12T23:54:42Z")
Nope. Hubstacks get really boring like after 2 weeks.
The Protostar plays way better.
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### Author:  [@noyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/noyo)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2010, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511/3 "2010-06-13T00:15:43Z")
Hubstacks arent that big of deal, put i like the pgm way better, and i will always regrett trading it. 😢
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### Author:  [@jam985](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jam985)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2010, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511/4 "2010-06-13T00:23:38Z")
I would definitely go with the Protostar. It is ridiculously smooth for a plastic and sleeps for quite a while.
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### Author:  [@EvanW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EvanW)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511/5 "2010-06-13T00:26:38Z")
Does the protostar have that effect where the yoyo will start to tilt during the sleep? My journey does that
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### Author:  [@XaGoNiX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/XaGoNiX)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511/6 "2010-06-13T01:12:55Z")
> [@Evanator00](#):
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> Does the protostar have that effect where the yoyo will start to tilt during the sleep? My journey does that
My red ProtoStar does that. It’s not too noticeable unless you leave it sleeping for a while.
Dunno about the PGM.
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### Author:  [@pavig](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pavig)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2010, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511/7 "2010-06-13T02:16:24Z")
Both are good yoyos. Get the pgm2 if you want hubstacks, the protostar if you don’t care for them. I like them both and think either would serve you well. The PGM2 and Protostar are the best plastic examples (i’ve played) of very different styles of yoyo. Nobody can tell you which you would prefer.
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### Author:  [@sa11297](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sa11297)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511/8 "2010-06-13T17:02:53Z")
can somebody give me a link to where i could buy the pgm2? (new)
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### Author:  [@x52](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/x52)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2010, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511/9 "2010-06-14T23:17:19Z")
> [@sa11297](#):
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> can somebody give me a link to where i could buy the pgm2? (new)
I would get the Protostar. I think it has way better playability. And here’s the link: [YoYoFactory – YoYoExpert](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/32/YYF-Grind-Machine)
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### Author:  [@JUMP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JUMP)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511/10 "2010-06-14T23:27:00Z")
> [@Vivo](#):
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> Nope. Hubstacks get really boring like after 2 weeks.
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> The Protostar plays way better.
Agreed.
For pure playability, Protostar is much better.
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### Author:  [@x52](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/x52)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2010, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511/11 "2010-06-14T23:35:26Z")
I think the PGM is good for intermediate players, or somebody who wants to practice some easy tricks or wants to mess around with hubstacks.
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### Author:  [@sa11297](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sa11297)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511/12 "2010-06-15T01:40:20Z")
> [@x52](#):
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> > [@sa11297](#):
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> > can somebody give me a link to where i could buy the pgm2? (new)
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> I would get the Protostar. I think it has way better playability. And here’s the link: [YoYoFactory – YoYoExpert](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/32/YYF-Grind-Machine)
thank you but this is the first one. 🙂 (not to sound rude)
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### Author:  [@sa11297](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sa11297)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2010, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511/13 "2010-06-15T01:42:11Z")
PROTOSTAR!! hubs arent that great and the protostar is awesome! if u buy the pgm2 and then play with the protostar you will regret buying it ;D
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### Author:  [@JUMP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JUMP)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511/14 "2010-06-15T19:02:57Z")
> [@sa11297](#):
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> > [@x52](#):
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> > > [@sa11297](#):
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> > > can somebody give me a link to where i could buy the pgm2? (new)
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> > I would get the Protostar. I think it has way better playability. And here’s the link: [YoYoFactory – YoYoExpert](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/32/YYF-Grind-Machine)
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> thank you but this is the first one. 🙂 (not to sound rude)
The page shows a PGM V.1 but it’s the V.2 that’s currently in stock.
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### Author:  [@SilverMan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SilverMan)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511/15 "2010-06-15T19:04:09Z")
protostar!!!
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### Author:  [@stevenjamesleda](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stevenjamesleda)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-or-pgm2/15511/16 "2010-06-15T19:47:23Z")
well but i hear that the protostar is awesome but i have a pgm v2 and i absoluty love it and the hubstacks are fun and usefull too
but really go with the protostar