# protostar, grind machine, or northstar? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [March 8, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-grind-machine-or-northstar/35592 "2012-03-08T01:33:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Andrew\_Lee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bbce88/32.png) [@Andrew\_Lee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Andrew_Lee)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-grind-machine-or-northstar/35592/1 "2012-03-08T01:33:10Z")
So I’m lookin for a new yoyo. I have three choices. They’re the protostar, grind machine, and the northstar. I love hubstacks but I don’t know if GM2 plays well. The protostar looks good and seems good. I haven’t heard much about the northstar other than that it does a great grind. I am a 1A player and need a recommendation. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew\_Lee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bbce88/32.png) [@Andrew\_Lee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Andrew_Lee)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-grind-machine-or-northstar/35592/2 "2012-03-08T01:36:51Z")
Er I mean PGM ---
**Author:** ![Bricky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bricky/32/1068_2.png) [@Bricky](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bricky)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-grind-machine-or-northstar/35592/3 "2012-03-08T01:52:23Z")
I would say protostar, because it is real nice, some may say northstar, but loads have cracked, including mine. I don’t know much about the grind machine though sorry. ---
**Author:** ![hiltonking](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hiltonking/32/807_2.png) [@hiltonking](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hiltonking)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-grind-machine-or-northstar/35592/4 "2012-03-08T02:02:54Z")
I have a NorthStar and a PGM. If I could have only one of them – NorthStar. Plays as good as a metal. I love it. Plays much much much better than the PGM. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-grind-machine-or-northstar/35592/5 "2012-03-08T02:08:55Z")
I have all 3 and my favorite is the Protostar. I like it’s weight and stability more than the other two. But, just to make things even more complicated, I would also suggest the Adegle PSG. It’s much cheaper than any of those yoyos and plays really smooth. However, it’s a lot lighter too and takes some adjustment. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-grind-machine-or-northstar/35592/6 "2012-03-08T02:10:59Z")
I’m not into stacked yoyos yet, but it’s a nice option to have. But, narrowing down the choices to those three, my choice would be the Northstar. I have all three. I find the PGM stacks hard for me to grab to grab. I see others grab them just fine. Pull starts are way fun! The Protostar, as much as I enjoy it, is a tad too light for me. That’s why I go with the Northstar. However, the Protostar and Northstar are smooth so they don’t grind very well. ---
**Author:** ![PlasticWhip](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/plasticwhip/32/896_2.png) [@PlasticWhip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PlasticWhip)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-grind-machine-or-northstar/35592/7 "2012-03-08T02:25:23Z")
> [@Bricky](#): > > I would say protostar, because it is real nice, some may say northstar, but loads have cracked, including mine. I don’t know much about the grind machine though sorry. They fixed the cracking issue ---
**Author:** ![Taluboots](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@Taluboots](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Taluboots)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-grind-machine-or-northstar/35592/8 "2012-03-08T02:37:22Z")
It’s all preference. If you like grinding and really want stacks, get the PGM2. If you like speed and/or thumb grinds, get the Protostar. If you like longer spin times and heavy yo-yos, get the Northstar. ---
**Author:** ![turtle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/turtle/32/1044_2.png) [@turtle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/turtle)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-grind-machine-or-northstar/35592/9 "2012-03-08T02:51:05Z")
I’d pick the Northstar between those three, but I like heavier throws… but if you really want hub stacks, well there’s no decision… (not counting ridiculous modding)… Quick input on the PSG recommendation - while I like the PSG, it doesn’t compare to any of these - maybe the Asteroid is a closer match (more similar H shape and weight) and it is cheap, really under-valued… ---
**Author:** ![zigzag97](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ec8ea/32.png) [@zigzag97](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zigzag97)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-grind-machine-or-northstar/35592/10 "2012-03-08T04:41:59Z")
there is also the shinwoo dolphin around that price range and is a full metal. it is undersized and plays amazingly. just something to consider… ---
**Author:** ![mingfu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@mingfu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mingfu)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-grind-machine-or-northstar/35592/11 "2012-03-08T05:14:33Z")
I agree its all preference i would suggest the protostar (my fav out of the three) but i like the chaser better than all 3.