# Protostar, Counter Attack, or Grind Machine **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [December 12, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-counter-attack-or-grind-machine/46499 "2012-12-12T17:47:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![flamingyoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/flamingyoyo/32/1164_2.png) [@flamingyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/flamingyoyo)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-counter-attack-or-grind-machine/46499/1 "2012-12-12T17:47:57Z")
Which ones better? Protostar, Counter Attack, or Grind Machine. Please only answer if you have or tried all three of these yoyos. ---
**Author:** ![Jansen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b487fb/32.png) [@Jansen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jansen)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-counter-attack-or-grind-machine/46499/2 "2012-12-12T17:59:46Z")
I like the Protostar better than all of your options, although the Grind Machine and the Counter attack aren’t bad for their price! EDIT: You can’t really go wrong with any of your options but I would choose the Protostar. ---
**Author:** ![camjm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/camjm/32/1263_2.png) [@camjm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/camjm)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-counter-attack-or-grind-machine/46499/3 "2012-12-12T18:08:41Z")
I like my protostar the best. My friend has the counter-attack and loves it. The counter-attack also comes with a center-trac bearing. I don’t really remember much about my grind machine. I traded it off. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-counter-attack-or-grind-machine/46499/4 "2012-12-12T18:25:15Z")
Protostar far and away, counter attack and grind machine don’t come anywhere near the protostar in any aspect of play. obvious answer here is the protostar. ---
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-counter-attack-or-grind-machine/46499/5 "2012-12-12T18:50:46Z")
> [@JohnnyJ](#): > > Protostar far and away, counter attack and grind machine don’t come anywhere near the protostar in any aspect of play. obvious answer here is the protostar. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-counter-attack-or-grind-machine/46499/6 "2012-12-12T18:57:44Z")
I haven’t played the CounterAttack. This is just a model I’m not interested in. I have the PGM and Protostar. For pure performance, Protostar. It’s not even close. The PGM is a great yoyo too, loads of fun and you get to play with stacks, and the shape provides a bit more challenge. But, I’m gonna say Protostar. ---
**Author:** ![Coffelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/coffelt/32/1085_2.png) [@Coffelt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Coffelt)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-counter-attack-or-grind-machine/46499/7 "2012-12-12T19:09:52Z")
Protostar is the best performer. Counter attack is the best for casual and grinding. Grind machine… Well it has hub stacks. ---
**Author:** ![yoyo\_creep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo_creep/32/908_2.png) [@yoyo\_creep](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo_creep)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-counter-attack-or-grind-machine/46499/8 "2012-12-15T03:27:56Z")
> [@Coffelt](#): > > Protostar is the best performer. > Counter attack is the best for casual and grinding. > Grind machine… Well it has hub stacks. this is exactly what I was going to say. So, this. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2012, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-counter-attack-or-grind-machine/46499/9 "2012-12-16T02:15:06Z")
The counter attack. ---
**Author:** ![Noonar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/noonar/32/1244_2.png) [@Noonar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Noonar)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/protostar-counter-attack-or-grind-machine/46499/10 "2012-12-16T02:27:54Z")
SERIOUSLY?!! This thread again? Why does everyone want to know about YYF plastics and which one to get? We get this a million times. Get a Northstar. Its a classic