# Popular yo-yo that you just couldn't get into? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [December 15, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295 "2018-12-15T00:15:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/187 "2019-06-14T21:06:20Z")
These guys own YYF. Don’t let “factory” in the name sway you. These guys eat live and breath yoyoing. And have for a very long time. > **[Ben McPhee](https://yoyo.fandom.com/wiki/Ben_McPhee)** > > Benny McPhee is the Product/Brand Manager for YoYoFactory. Benny often represents YoYoFactory on store forums, posting as yoyofactoryben. Benny is an Australian, a contest competitor, and was once a member of World Team Proyo with YoHans. It was back... > **[Hans Van Dan Elzen](https://yoyo.fandom.com/wiki/Hans_Van_Dan_Elzen)** > > Hans Van Dan Elzen (also known as Yohans) is one of the best-known yo-yo community personalites. As a past recipient of The Mark Sitton Award for Sportsmanship, he is well known as a competitor, demonstrator for (Playmaxx/ProYo) and manufacturer... ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/188 "2019-06-14T21:54:53Z")
yoyofactory is a great brand. They offer a wide variety of product to pretty much every level of player. They do more for yoyoing than any other brand IMO. So many different designs, and they’ve been making yoyos for so many years. Why would people call yyfs souless? ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/189 "2019-06-14T21:55:46Z")
What do other boutique brands do better in terms of marketing where yyf falls short to you? Genuinely curious ---
**Author:** ![nonja121](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nonja121/32/52722_2.png) [@nonja121](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nonja121)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/190 "2019-06-15T02:16:27Z")
IMO a lot of YYF throws definitely have a certain common feel to them. Not meant as a criticism necessarily—I’m actually quite fond of YYF—but I can see if something of that YYF formula isn’t working for someone how the rest of the line might feel rather unappealing. Popular throws I can’t get into: Hummingbird Ceasefire Marco Shutter Wide Angle ‘18 Banshee (neither the 6061 nor the AL7) Big Boi 430 I feel like one day I’ll pick up the Banshees and totally see what the hype is about but right know I just don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Imdavid122](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/imdavid122/32/87913_2.png) [@Imdavid122](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Imdavid122)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/191 "2019-06-15T02:32:14Z")
Am yoyofactory fanboy, they cool Also the replay metal is such a fun organic ---
**Author:** ![Egon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/egon/32/53004_2.png) [@Egon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Egon)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/192 "2019-06-15T02:48:39Z")
Soulless, I both agree and disagree. Agree: Ever heard the term “bubblegum music” lots of there stuff seems like that to me Disagree: They do a helluva lot for the yo-yo world, have a huge range of products as mentioned. And from what I understand are genuinely good dudes (never met Ben) My sample size is small in comparison to what they’ve produced, probably only owned like 12 YYF, never thrown a Shutter or 888 Love how the Confusion GT has the 🐝 colors and looks like the Cold Fusion. Note: Anyone wanna trade a shutter or Confusion GT? Holla at me! ---
**Author:** ![whitesage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/whitesage/32/654209_2.png) [@whitesage](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/whitesage)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/193 "2019-06-15T03:01:21Z")
I liked the shape of the Dang 2 but it has a terrible finish in my opinion. Ruins it for me. ---
**Author:** ![Imdavid122](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/imdavid122/32/87913_2.png) [@Imdavid122](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Imdavid122)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/194 "2019-06-15T03:36:43Z")
The new yyf stuff is nuts The blade and bind from what ive heard are really good ---
**Author:** ![nonja121](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nonja121/32/52722_2.png) [@nonja121](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nonja121)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 4:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/195 "2019-06-15T04:29:14Z")
> [@Imdavid122](#): > > The blade and bind from what ive heard are really good Can confirm. They’re both excellent, especially the BiND. Wish the Blade had maybe a gram or two more on it but that’s being nitpicky. ---
**Author:** ![SpyseaRice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spysearice/32/82121_2.png) [@SpyseaRice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpyseaRice)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/196 "2019-06-15T04:56:21Z")
tbh this thread is more of a _Popular yo-yo that you just couldn’t get?_ rather than _Popular yo-yo that you just couldn’t get **into**?_ lol ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/197 "2019-06-15T05:02:48Z")
> [@AaronW](#): > > What gives a yoyo “soul”? > [@Nathan](#): > > Resale value 🤣 I feel like this deserves 50 :heart:s ---
**Author:** ![Jhammond93](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhammond93/32/53095_2.png) [@Jhammond93](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jhammond93)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/198 "2019-06-15T05:47:27Z")
I feel the yyf company has a sort of corporate feel compared to other companies. (One drop, CLYW, yyfriends, rain city, etc.) it’s like comparing a chili’s, or outback to a small mom and pop joint. The larger corporate companies make good product, sometimes better than the mom and pop places. That being said, the “soul” is a feeling, mostly due to marketing and branding. Companies like Yyf, Duncan, and Yomega are big and always make a relatively good product, but the smaller companies have that charm of being a smaller/ less established name and product that is sooo appealing even though the product might be less consistently good. In other words they have “soul” ---
**Author:** ![Grendel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grendel/32/92975_2.png) [@Grendel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grendel)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/199 "2019-06-15T07:18:03Z")
I’m still looking for a cold fusion gt my self Sir. Don’t want to be deleted. That Starfire from that that guy is the snizxxx.n if I do say myself. Word to your mother mfs… … ---
**Author:** ![moby323](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moby323/32/57094_2.png) [@moby323](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/moby323)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/200 "2019-06-15T07:51:10Z")
Honestly there are multiple CLYW throws that fit this category for me, throws that are sluggish and not particularly stable and in general don’t perform well. That said, I think the Arctic Circle 2 is one of the best yo-yos ever made. ---
**Author:** ![d34dj3d](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/d34dj3d/32/105169_2.png) [@d34dj3d](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d34dj3d)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/201 "2019-06-15T15:52:42Z")
For me it’s the CLYW wildfire. This surprises me since I typically love V-ish performance oriented bimetals. Maybe I need to give it more time, I didn’t care much for the artemis until I spent quite a bit of time with it and now I love it. CLYW has been the most hit/miss for me, about 50/50 out of the 6 I own. 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/202 "2019-06-15T16:00:14Z")
I agree. Since I started getting back into the game a lot of the new clyws I can’t get behind. I feel like they fell off hard once they moved to China. The peak 2 is a nice player though 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/203 "2019-06-15T18:48:44Z")
Can you go into a little more detail? Was considering picking one up at some point. ---
**Author:** ![Egon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/egon/32/53004_2.png) [@Egon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Egon)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/204 "2019-06-15T19:06:52Z")
> [@d34dj3d](#): > > Maybe I need to give it more time, I try to keep this in mind also, I didn’t like the Duncan Strix, or the Origami at first, after a very long time on the shelf I picked them both up again and I actually really like both now. 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![c0dy46](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/c0dy46/32/47755_2.png) [@c0dy46](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/c0dy46)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/205 "2019-06-15T20:20:04Z")
I have 4 different Wedges and I haven’t experienced this yet, although every throw I own I try to take apart as little as possible. One thing I do, but really only with the wedge or other YYF yoyo with arrows, I recorded a video unscrewing it one turn at time, then went extra slow right when reaches that last thread before coming apart, note the position, then reassemble as closely as I can while counting the same turns it took to unscrew it and all of mine still line up. It sounds like extra work but really it seemed like no effort at all and I was curious if it’d work haha. ---
**Author:** ![moby323](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moby323/32/57094_2.png) [@moby323](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/moby323)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295/206 "2019-06-15T20:32:16Z")
Honestly there are multiple CLYW throws that just don’t do it for me. They are sluggish and uninteresting and aren’t particularly stable. That said, the Arctic Circle 2 is IMO one of the best throws ever made and also one of the most under appreciated. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/popular-yo-yo-that-you-just-couldnt-get-into/296295.md?page=11)