# Please someone help with the messiah?

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**Created:** [September 2, 2013, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/please-someone-help-with-the-messiah/58692 "2013-09-02T13:58:48Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/please-someone-help-with-the-messiah/58692/1 "2013-09-02T13:58:48Z")

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Is it good at horizontal or not some say it excellet some say t bad how is it onscale of 1 to 10 this might make me get it or not

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/please-someone-help-with-the-messiah/58692/2 "2013-09-02T14:39:31Z")

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For the most part, for a yoyo to be good at horizontal it needs to have low walls and a V/Stepped/H shape.

Bad for Horizontal:

[http://www.latiendadelyoyo.com/76-863-thickbox/spyy-addiction.jpg](http://www.latiendadelyoyo.com/76-863-thickbox/spyy-addiction.jpg)

[http://www.mulungu.hu/pics\_products/3/2/6/5/3265\_ra36uv59.jpg](http://www.mulungu.hu/pics_products/3/2/6/5/3265_ra36uv59.jpg)

Good for horizontal:

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/c/8/6c8286b40c5091e7dbce5af1081981a8b79fd282.png)

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/3/7/93778016422ab0fca01f7f989bc3971c146942d8.jpeg)

A bit of an over-the-top comparison, but it gives you an idea.

This is the Messiah:

[http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v1/579855943\_2/Yoyorecreation-Messiah-blue-under-size-high-speed-yoyo.jpg](http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v1/579855943_2/Yoyorecreation-Messiah-blue-under-size-high-speed-yoyo.jpg)

So design wise, it should be good at horizontal. I don’t believe that undersized throws due to their usually less-stable nature will be as good at horizontal as a full or oversized throw, but as far as undersized yoyos go, I can’t see one better geared towards horizontal than the Messiah.

Obviously just remember that horizontal is tricky and it’ll be your practicing that makes more of a difference than the throw itself. Any yoyo can do horizontal, it’s just that low walled models are more forgiving by design.

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The Messiah is very good for horizontal despite being undersized. It may not be as good as a Draupnir or Overdrive, but it will handle anything you throw at it.

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/please-someone-help-with-the-messiah/58692/4 "2013-09-05T17:36:46Z")

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for&nbsp; horizontal plays, first of all serve good hands:

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/1/2/c12cba2679e0769bb57de5cf91c19780dd1b543f.jpeg "Luo Yi Cheng's 1A freestyle 2007") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLIpx74BdHI)

01:43 (2007! and palstic yoyo with butterfly shape)

made this consideration, the Messiah plays in horizontal , but I would the same shape and diameter of at least 55mm.