# Plastic Grind Machine mod **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [January 8, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624 "2011-01-08T15:27:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![yymaustin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/43a26b/32.png) [@yymaustin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yymaustin)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/1 "2011-01-08T15:27:04Z")
i need some help modding my plastic grind machine v2 ---
**Author:** ![Domin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@Domin123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Domin123)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/2 "2011-01-08T15:34:39Z")
Please elaborate. What equipment/materials do you have? What is your goal? ---
**Author:** ![yymaustin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/43a26b/32.png) [@yymaustin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yymaustin)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/3 "2011-01-08T15:43:05Z")
i aint got tht much could u tell me wat i would need i wanna make it sleep longer and spin longer on the hubstacks ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/4 "2011-01-08T15:45:21Z")
The PGM spins for much longer than you need it to. Work on your throw. ---
**Author:** ![yymaustin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/43a26b/32.png) [@yymaustin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yymaustin)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/5 "2011-01-08T15:49:03Z")
then i need better performance because i traded it for a revolution and i want to make it better thn my revolution ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/6 "2011-01-08T15:51:50Z")
Now here is where a lot of new yoyoers get led astray. No yoyo is better than another. Performance is as good as you make it. The Revolution wasn’t of any higher performance than the PGM, just of different performance aspects. Which you can’t change. Just practice with it. ---
**Author:** ![yoyomatt2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f19dbf/32.png) [@yoyomatt2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyomatt2)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/7 "2011-01-08T16:03:08Z")
u could clean the bearing in the hubs ---
**Author:** ![hoggwild89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/57b2e6/32.png) [@hoggwild89](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hoggwild89)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/8 "2011-01-08T16:09:31Z")
- No yoyo is better than another. \* This can most certanly be disputed. It is simply not true. - Performance is as good as you make it. \* This however is true. ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/9 "2011-01-08T16:37:49Z")
It’s true within reason. If you want to be an idiot and say that Butterflies aren’t as good as Dark Magics, go ahead, but otherwise it is most certainly true. I can do any trick I know on a FAST 201. ---
**Author:** ![yymaustin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/43a26b/32.png) [@yymaustin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yymaustin)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/10 "2011-01-08T16:57:39Z")
fast 201s suck tho ---
**Author:** ![hoggwild89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/57b2e6/32.png) [@hoggwild89](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hoggwild89)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/11 "2011-01-08T17:21:52Z")
First thing, dont call me an idiot Dont take this as an attack, its not meant to be. . Next, you cant just make a blanket statement like “all yoyos are the same” because some NOOB is going to take that literally. Besides perhaps you can do any trick on a low end yoyo but they _DO_ behave differently and you must agree that is a true statement. 🙂 > [@Q](#): > > It’s true within reason. If you want to be an idiot and say that Butterflies aren’t as good as Dark Magics, go ahead, but otherwise it is most certainly true. I can do any trick I know on a FAST 201. ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/12 "2011-01-08T17:27:48Z")
The do behave differently, but you are taking what I said out of context. I was talking about a Revolution versus a PGM. There is no difference in ability between either of those yoyos. Within this topic, what I said is completely true. ---
**Author:** ![hoggwild89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/57b2e6/32.png) [@hoggwild89](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hoggwild89)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/13 "2011-01-08T17:34:55Z")
A thosand words are worth a thousand words, lol. OK, yes that does clear it up 🙂 > [@Q](#): > > The do behave differently, but you are taking what I said out of context. > > I was talking about a Revolution versus a PGM. There is no difference in ability between either of those yoyos. Within this topic, what I said is completely true. ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/14 "2011-01-08T17:48:17Z")
Agree to disagree on agreeing? ---
**Author:** ![hoggwild89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/57b2e6/32.png) [@hoggwild89](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hoggwild89)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/15 "2011-01-08T18:28:11Z")
WOW! Now im corn-fused!!! ;D > [@Q](#): > > Agree to disagree on agreeing? ---
**Author:** ![Batryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/batryn/32/78_2.png) [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/16 "2011-01-08T18:54:32Z")
And to sum up this wonderful topic, BASICALLY, what the no yoyo is better than the other thing is supposed to mean that there’s no best yoyos. YES, I know there’s exceptions, like fixed axle versus a catch 22, but still, WITHIN REASON. Just think of it as there’s no best yoyo ok? Good. Thank you very much. ---
**Author:** ![dyladon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@dyladon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dyladon)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/17 "2011-01-15T10:54:37Z")
lol only one person answered his initial question ---
**Author:** ![ExAzrael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@ExAzrael](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ExAzrael)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plastic-grind-machine-mod/22624/18 "2011-01-15T11:07:43Z")
> [@dyladon](#): > > lol only one person answered his initial question I think the “give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime” rule applies here.