# Plane control help please **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [July 10, 2021, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plane-control-help-please/341384 "2021-07-10T09:51:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lido/32/173650_2.png) [@Lido](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lido)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plane-control-help-please/341384/1 "2021-07-10T09:51:17Z")
I used to think of “plane control” to mean keeping the yo-yo from tilting sideways with respect to the ground. When I do a trick that has a few back and forth string landings in it, the yo-yo stays upright ok (with effort sometimes of course), but that vertical plane seems to rotate left a bit with every step of the trick (i.e. counterclockwise if you’re looking down from above) so I end up facing 90 degrees or more to my left than when I started the throw. Any idea what causes that and how to work on keeping it from happening? ---
**Author:** ![AKYOYOMIKE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/akyoyomike/32/286732_2.png) [@AKYOYOMIKE](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AKYOYOMIKE)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plane-control-help-please/341384/2 "2021-07-10T11:00:25Z")
I’m no expert but I’m guessing it’s your throw. Something that helped me a lot in the last year is to play fixed axel. Fixed yoyos are unforgiving if your throw is off and will teach you to throw clean and straight. ---
**Author:** ![piano\_man19](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/piano_man19/32/127975_2.png) [@piano\_man19](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/piano_man19)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plane-control-help-please/341384/3 "2021-07-10T11:01:35Z")
This tends to happen to me towards the end of a trick, because the yoyo is running out of spin. Lots of stuff can increase spin time, but I usually default to a harder throw, especially if it is a longer combo. ---
**Author:** ![Lido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lido/32/173650_2.png) [@Lido](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lido)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plane-control-help-please/341384/4 "2021-07-10T17:36:26Z")
I tried videoing to see and I think it’s me moving my hands to position the string gaps so I can land on the correct string. ---
**Author:** ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plane-control-help-please/341384/5 "2021-07-12T19:00:08Z")
That sounds more like precession, and happens when the string isn’t centered in the gap. ---
**Author:** ![Lido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lido/32/173650_2.png) [@Lido](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lido)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plane-control-help-please/341384/6 "2021-07-12T21:01:20Z")
Is it just more practice, or is there something I can keep an eye on? ---
**Author:** ![Shapapy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shapapy/32/141199_2.png) [@Shapapy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shapapy)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plane-control-help-please/341384/7 "2021-07-12T22:48:58Z")
I think it’s just something you develop naturally over time. Practicing using a less forgiving yo-yo may help speed up the process. I use a Basecamp Sherpa unresponsive with a OD flat bearing to work on my form and precision. It’s not as unforgiving as a fixie, but it still requires you to slow down and focus a bit more to keep it from tilting. ---
**Author:** ![Lido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lido/32/173650_2.png) [@Lido](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lido)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plane-control-help-please/341384/8 "2021-07-12T22:59:48Z")
I practice mostly with plastic, but it happens regardless of what I’m using. Been working on the same trick for well over a month, but I think I’m ready to at least try the next one. ---
**Author:** ![Shapapy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shapapy/32/141199_2.png) [@Shapapy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shapapy)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plane-control-help-please/341384/9 "2021-07-12T23:21:35Z")
I like having at least a couple of new tricks to work on at a time. That way I don’t get bogged down and can always come back to something later if it gives me too much trouble. Hell, I’m still trying to get Yuuki Slack probably a year after I first learned how to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Lido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lido/32/173650_2.png) [@Lido](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lido)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/plane-control-help-please/341384/10 "2021-07-12T23:43:56Z")
Well, I’m currently at Zipper so I’ve got a long way to go!