# PHENOMIZM **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [June 1, 2012, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenomizm/38309 "2012-06-01T22:41:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PhobicTundra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@PhobicTundra](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PhobicTundra)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenomizm/38309/1 "2012-06-01T22:41:02Z")
What do you all like about it?Do you not like it at all?Or have you owned a Phenomizm,I own one and it plays better than my old dark magic 2.So what are your comments please I want to know… ---
**Author:** ![AngryGumball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/angrygumball/32/683872_2.png) [@AngryGumball](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AngryGumball)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenomizm/38309/2 "2012-06-02T00:47:05Z")
I’ve played a very similar shaped/weighted yoyo in which I like the catch zone on it and the stability this one has. I’m kind of wishing I tested out the Phenomizm rather than just picking up the box and looking at it this past weekend. I will say that it is a bit easy to get a bad and/or tilted throw due to the profile but once you get used to it, you’ll get clean, smooth throws. I’d be curious to try out the Phenom and see how that feels, smoothness-wise I also like my Dark Magic 2 as it’s a little more comfy to hold and easier to hand start. My DM actually runs smoother/no vibe giving the yoyo a nice, gliding feeling. ---
**Author:** ![Inward-Pro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7cd45c/32.png) [@Inward-Pro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Inward-Pro)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenomizm/38309/3 "2013-10-10T15:58:30Z")
I love it, but there is just one problem: its responsive even with a konkave bearing. It is a very smooth and insanely fun yoyo, but it being responsive makes it harder to do certain tricks. I would rather buy a yyj inspire with a konkave. They spin forever and feel better than any yoyo ive ever had…until mine got stolen from me. They are also great for thumb grinds. The phenomizm is great, but an inspire tops it. And the rims on the phenomizm’s rims pop out a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Tetrahedron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tetrahedron/32/700_2.png) [@Tetrahedron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tetrahedron)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenomizm/38309/4 "2013-10-10T17:08:08Z")
> [@Inward-Pro](#): > > I love it, but there is just one problem: its responsive even with a konkave bearing. It is a very smooth and insanely fun yoyo, but it being responsive makes it harder to do certain tricks. I would rather buy a yyj inspire with a konkave. They spin forever and feel better than any yoyo ive ever had…until mine got stolen from me. They are also great for thumb grinds. The phenomizm is great, but an inspire tops it. And the rims on the phenomizm’s rims pop out a bit. Inspire is far more expensive. And none of the izms I’ve played with are responsive so… Something must be wrong with yours or there is a lack of proper maintenance going on. Phenomizm isn’t a bad yoyo. It’s fast, solid, and can deal with almost every style of trick. But it is on the premium end of plastic/hybrid material yoyos and may be better just getting a metal instead. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenomizm/38309/5 "2013-10-10T21:42:41Z")
> [@Inward-Pro](#): > > I love it, but there is just one problem: its responsive even with a konkave bearing. It is a very smooth and insanely fun yoyo, but it being responsive makes it harder to do certain tricks. I would rather buy a yyj inspire with a konkave. They spin forever and feel better than any yoyo ive ever had…until mine got stolen from me. They are also great for thumb grinds. The phenomizm is great, but an inspire tops it. And the rims on the phenomizm’s rims pop out a bit. I’ve never had any problems with my Phenomizm. Dead unresponsive with the KK stock, or any bearing I choose to shove in there. I also fail to see how the rims on the Phenomism would pop off. The yoyo features a mid-rim weight ring, which COULD pop out on a hard hit. I’d rather play a Phenom. I can. I do. It just seems the Phenomizm was a necessary step in the evolution of the Speed Maker to the Phenom. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenomizm/38309/6 "2013-10-11T02:39:36Z")
Woah, you skipped the Meteor and the Speeder. ---
**Author:** ![MYNAMEISZen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenomizm/38309/7 "2013-10-11T06:06:00Z")
> [@CaribouNick](#): > > Inspire is far more expensive. The inspire is cheaper than the Phenomizm. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenomizm/38309/8 "2013-10-11T08:15:08Z")
> [@Yoyo](#): > > Woah, you skipped the Meteor and the Speeder. Thanks for reminding me. Been doing 20+ hour days preparing for a film festival with film makers waiting until the last second to get their HD versions over. ---
**Author:** ![frodoslair](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/frodoslair/32/833_2.png) [@frodoslair](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/frodoslair)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenomizm/38309/9 "2013-10-11T08:48:48Z")
These were my initial thoughts: > **[PHENOMizm.... some thoughts](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,42289.0.html)** > > My review will be focussing more on my subjective feelings / thoughts towards this yoyo. If you’re a sucker for specs etc. head on over to YYE’s fantastic store pages where they have photographs and all the technical specs you need… First thing... I’ve since traded mine off, the gap is too wide for me, and I’m still not sure I get the reasoning behind mid-weight technology… (I’ve also just traded off an Xcon Pro in favour of an original Hitman. I honestly prefer the way the HM plays). ---
**Author:** ![Tetrahedron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tetrahedron/32/700_2.png) [@Tetrahedron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tetrahedron)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenomizm/38309/10 "2013-10-11T11:11:24Z")
> [@MYNAMEISZen](#): > > The inspire is cheaper than the Phenomizm. I was looking elsewhere, bad reference. W Strange that I don’t remember the izm ever being over 60. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenomizm/38309/11 "2013-10-11T15:31:43Z")
> [@CaribouNick](#): > > I was looking elsewhere, bad reference. W > Strange that I don’t remember the izm ever being over 60. I paid $66 in late 2011 for this yoyo. It’s since gone up to $71.40. I know many of YYJ’s models increased in price, especially the metal/plastic yoyos. ---
**Author:** ![kuyaChristian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kuyaChristian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kuyaChristian)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenomizm/38309/12 "2013-10-11T18:35:24Z")
I’ll just say that there’s a tiny, but still worth mentioning, difference in the play between the regular PHENOMizm and the 24K gold plated-rimmed PHENOMizm [in which I have]. I like the 24K version more 'cause it feels more solid. Very smooth yoyo too. Unfortunately I can’t do horizontals so I can’t say anything about that. I don’t use it as much anymore 'cause I want to keep that yoyo as clean as possible as it’s one of the very last Mickey-branded YYJs, but it still remains one of my favorite yoyos in my collection. ---
**Author:** ![BenM36](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/benm36/32/646268_2.png) [@BenM36](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BenM36)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenomizm/38309/14 "2013-10-11T23:12:07Z")
> [@ROCKERKID13](#): > > I personally didn’t like the phenomizm IMO it was too light for technical tricks it would spin if i wasn’t going fast with it but its a beast a horizontal its a fun throw just not for me , hey who am to say? If you like it get it That’s more of a player problem than a yoyo problem.