# PHENOM vs. Leviathan 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [November 27, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-vs-leviathan-2/32066 "2011-11-27T17:18:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TanCredo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@TanCredo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TanCredo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-vs-leviathan-2/32066/1 "2011-11-27T17:18:13Z")
VOTE! Thanks… ---
**Author:** ![Swatnoodle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/swatnoodle/32/855_2.png) [@Swatnoodle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Swatnoodle)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-vs-leviathan-2/32066/2 "2011-11-27T19:31:41Z")
Leviathan 2. Phenom felt awkward for me ---
**Author:** ![brandoide1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/brandoide1/32/662_2.png) [@brandoide1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/brandoide1)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-vs-leviathan-2/32066/3 "2011-11-28T01:48:09Z")
What are your preferences? Do you like big/small yoyos? Do you like heavy/light yoyos? etc. ---
**Author:** ![TanCredo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@TanCredo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TanCredo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-vs-leviathan-2/32066/4 "2011-11-28T13:54:58Z")
big and heavy and spin time and good shape 😛 ---
**Author:** ![brandoide1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/brandoide1/32/662_2.png) [@brandoide1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/brandoide1)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-vs-leviathan-2/32066/5 "2011-11-28T22:05:08Z")
> [@TanCredo](#): > > big and heavy and spin time and good shape 😛 Then in that case, I’d get a Phenom if I were you: It’s fullsized, heavy, has epic spin-times, and the shape [I’ve heard] is favorable; especially for horizontal(s). The Leviathan, on the other hand, is “small for a fullsized yoyo” (if that makes any sense), and on the floatier end of the spectrum. Hope this helped. ---
**Author:** ![dingo54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@dingo54](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dingo54)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-vs-leviathan-2/32066/6 "2011-11-29T01:43:21Z")
The phenomizm is a bit weird to me and a little on the light side for me(preferance). But the leviathan 2 is just an all around great yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![TanCredo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@TanCredo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TanCredo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-vs-leviathan-2/32066/7 "2011-11-29T17:31:45Z")
> [@Brandon1](#): > > > [@TanCredo](#): > > > > big and heavy and spin time and good shape 😛 > > Then in that case, I’d get a Phenom if I were you: It’s fullsized, heavy, has epic spin-times, and the shape [I’ve heard] is favorable; especially for horizontal(s). > > The Leviathan, on the other hand, is “small for a fullsized yoyo” (if that makes any sense), and on the floatier end of the spectrum. Hope this helped. I get a Phenom Levi 2 is too expensive and its not worth(I think) More VOTE please 😃 ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-vs-leviathan-2/32066/8 "2011-11-29T18:01:42Z")
I just ordered a Phenom and should have it by the end of the week. Leviathan 2 is too expensive for me for now. (Read this as: I don’t feel like spending that kinda dough on a throw, ya know!) ---
**Author:** ![TanCredo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@TanCredo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TanCredo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-vs-leviathan-2/32066/9 "2011-12-01T18:31:16Z")
more vote please! 😃 bump! ---
**Author:** ![issuzark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/issuzark/32/455_2.png) [@issuzark](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/issuzark)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-vs-leviathan-2/32066/10 "2011-12-01T23:50:41Z")
Get a Positron. Even Marcus Koh says it’s way better.