# PHENOM or PHENOMizm? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [May 17, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-or-phenomizm/26401 "2011-05-17T15:39:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PandaBear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pandabear/32/866_2.png) [@PandaBear](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PandaBear)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-or-phenomizm/26401/1 "2011-05-17T15:39:56Z")
I want to get either a PHENOM or PHENOMizm as my next throw, but I can’t decide which would be better for me. I didn’t see a PHENOM at AZ the last time I was there, but I did see a PHENOMizm, so I can really only try out one of them. What are the differences in terms of sleep time, balance, etc? Any and all help making this decision is greatly appreciated. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![seashark97](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/seashark97/32/506_2.png) [@seashark97](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/seashark97)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-or-phenomizm/26401/2 "2011-05-17T16:15:16Z")
phenom and phenomizm are the most balanced yoyos i know of, so you can’t go wrong with any of them. what i can say is if you can afford the phenom, go for it, if you can’t, the phenomizm won’t disappoint. ---
**Author:** ![Domin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@Domin123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Domin123)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-or-phenomizm/26401/3 "2011-05-17T16:17:39Z")
From what I see, the PHENOMizm is a cheaper and more affordable version of the PHENOM. If it fits your budget, I would recommend that you get the PHENOM, as all-metal yoyos generally have less vibe and are more durable than those with plastic in them. If you have a limited budget, then I think you should go with the PHENOMizm. It also plays quite well, as both yoyos generally have the same design. ---
**Author:** ![jasonwongzero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jasonwongzero/32/725_2.png) [@jasonwongzero](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jasonwongzero)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-or-phenomizm/26401/4 "2011-05-17T16:37:09Z")
Phenom plays and feels heavier to me. I love the both though and own each one! ---
**Author:** ![red\_yoyos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e495f1/32.png) [@red\_yoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/red_yoyos)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-or-phenomizm/26401/5 "2011-05-17T16:46:19Z")
I also own both. Phenom is just amazing. Its my go to thro for the last 2 weeks since I got it. But the Phenomizm is my pocket throw. If you play 1 without having the other to compare it to right away. The IZM feels heavier to me. Slight Vibe but nothing that would be a concern. But if you switch to the Phenom right after the IZM. You instantly feel just how smooth aand better play it has. I played the IZm for a week without realy playing the Phenom simply becaue I wasn’t home to play it. But as soon as I grabbed the phenom it was night and day on the feel of it. I wanted it since it released but the pricetag steered me away as I was just a YYJ. But after biting the bullet and getting it the only thing I regret was judging YYJ and waiting. ---
**Author:** ![PandaBear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pandabear/32/866_2.png) [@PandaBear](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PandaBear)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-or-phenomizm/26401/6 "2011-05-17T17:15:59Z")
So I think what I’m gonna do is this: if I’m buying it myself, I’ll get the PHENOMizm. If my parents are buying it for me as a graduation present, I’ll get the PHENOM. ---
**Author:** ![skeletonboy333](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@skeletonboy333](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skeletonboy333)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-or-phenomizm/26401/7 "2011-05-17T22:56:06Z")
Well the Phenomizm is a cheaper version of the Phenom. Phenomzim is a bi-metal but both have great balance, spin, smoothness etc. Phenom is 2 times as expensive as the Phenomizm but I don’t think it plays 2 times better. Phenomizm even if you are willing to pay for Phenom. Phenom is also pretty heaving with those gold rings on.