# Phenom Caps
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-caps/43450
**Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance
**Created:** [October 1, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-caps/43450 "2012-10-01T02:43:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@naoki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/naoki)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-caps/43450/1 "2012-10-01T02:43:34Z")
Right!
I’m back into Phenoms and Phenomizms, and I’m glad to see the last runs of Phenoms have some fancy colorways. BUT the new caps are probably the ugliest thing ever. I just don’t even think about playing a Phenom without caps one second. So my question is: Does anyone know if old Phenom caps fit well into the new Phenoms?
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### Author:  [@TheYoYoist101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheYoYoist101)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2012, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-caps/43450/2 "2012-10-01T02:55:31Z")
I’m sure they do. It’s just a cosmetic change.
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### Author:  [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2012, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-caps/43450/3 "2012-10-01T03:33:25Z")
> [@M.DeV1](#):
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> I’m sure they do. It’s just a cosmetic change.
I was thinking the same thing.
I just got a Speeder, and the seller(who will remain nameless) forgot to include a cap. YYJ’s plastic/metal throws feel and look rather odd to me and unfinished without their caps. I’m in favor of caps. I mean, yes, it’s our choice to use or not use them, but I feel if they went through the trouble to design caps, chances are they meant for us to use them.
However, I am planning to somehow score a DM2 that I will be removing the caps from.
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### Author:  [@naoki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/naoki)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2012, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-caps/43450/4 "2012-10-01T03:40:33Z")
I remember my Phenoms from the first run, they both had the caps not sticking very well. So, as there doesn’t seem to be any issue like this anymore, I suppose they have slightly modified the size. So I was thinking that with a new design, there could also be some very little variations in the size too.
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### Author:  [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2012, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-caps/43450/5 "2012-10-01T03:58:18Z")
More than likely the issue with the caps on earlier versions was fixed by adjusting the cap size, not the yoyo size on subsequent runs.
> [@naoki](#):
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> I remember my Phenoms from the first run, they both had the caps not sticking very well. So, as there doesn’t seem to be any issue like this anymore, I suppose they have slightly modified the size. So I was thinking that with a new design, there could also be some very little variations in the size too.
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### Author:  [@naoki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/naoki)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2012, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-caps/43450/6 "2012-10-01T04:00:44Z")
> [@jhb8426](#):
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> More than likely the issue with the caps on earlier versions was fixed by adjusting the cap size, not the yoyo size on subsequent runs.
That’s what I meant
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### Author:  [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/phenom-caps/43450/7 "2012-10-01T04:05:39Z")
Thanks, it wasn’t clear the way I read your post.